SSF4/AE are expansions that had a much later release date. UMvC3 didn’t have any plans for future DLC, so I could care less for Shuma and Jill. If they somehow decided that they were going to include Megaman, or Venom as DLC in UMvC3, then I would not have bought the game. It’s why I waited a good 2 months before purchased it.
EDIT: I should have said any Blazblue version after CT. I owned a copy of vanilla BB before I traded it in.
Yeah, pretty much, and SF4…
meh as much as i have personally played the game i bought all the DLC anyway. even without all the paid dlc this has far more content than previous capcom games. if i had gotten something along the lines of vanilla SF4 amount of content, i’d have to agree with you and hold off myself from the game. However this isnt the case, so regardless of paid dlc or not it’s still within reason with what they are offering.
I do think this sorta alienates kids who still live with their parents and dont have a job yet… and i’d imagine the parents that dont play games to not want to spend the unnecessary money on DLC, but i’m still not quite getting why so many people hate this game but dont hate SF4 when SF4 had far less content.
Edit: nvm seen the rant thread
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So you paid for sf4, super, ae dive kick edition?
60, 40 and 15
115 bucks in total
sfxt
reg edition 60
dlc 20
free dlc stuff included
80 bucks
50+ characters
Hey as long as you’re having fun with it i have nothing bad to say. To each their own i suppose.
I’ll agree with that SFxT is not “fun” to watch. But it is more fun to play. Like I said, it’s like if you watched real chess, it’s not fun to watch but the game is intense in player decision making and responding on the board.
Never mind the gems, it’s a hit or miss across the board but time, health, tagging, meter management, tech rolling psychology and overall selection of styles between point/anchor characters win it over for me in terms of depth between SFxT and AE. I’ve played SF4 with all of you guys since the game came out and I’ve had my share of fun and bad times with it through character nerfs and such, but SF4 favors that classic Street Fighter essence. Pick a character, learn his/her match ups, technical setups, baits and bits and it’s gravy.
Both games are unique in their own sense, I just wished people stopped comparing the gameplay of SFxT and SF4, it’s like apples and oranges really.
I just watched a few fights of Ryan Hunter (Julia x Steve) against SilphDK and some others. If people see that and say SFxT is boring too watch then something must be wrong with them.
This guy is so cool 
Those were expansions. We haven’t gotten an expansion to SFxT and due to its rep, we likely won’t. With SFIV, you can jump in at any point for retail at AE. With SFxT, your entry fee is always retail + $20 for yanked characters. Plus, those expansions came with new stages, modes, huge balancing changes, bug fixes,and online tweeks.
i got an undeserved win against Ryan a couple days ago. i didnt even know till yesterday that he was pretty well known
I don’t quite follow you and I’m not sure what it is that I said that you’re referring to.
At any rate, my point is that if you think this game is fun you should play it. If enough of the people that play it show up to tourneys, there will be tourneys for it, even if they are side events. Will it overtake SF4 or MvC3? Of course not. Can it get as much support as KOF, MK, GG, BB, MB, SG, etc. Of course it can.
Hell, back when SF4 hit and Denjin arcade was still around, there was a group of about 6 guys that showed up to every event to play Tatsunoko vs Capcom. They didn’t give a fuck that nobody else was playing games on the Wii. And they always seemed to have fun. A bunch of us showed up to those events and played HDR, despite all the shit talk about that game, and we had fun too. So, if you like the game play it and have fun!
I think in the end, if you love the game, you play it no matter what.
Case in point? Soul Calibur series.
From part one to part three, each game had some ridiculous glitches, which killed those games, partly because those glitches effected the game engine, and they were lifted unchecked. Part four was supposed to be the one to finally get it right, which they did, but found themselves with two overpowering characters and controversy with how to control one of them. Despite all of this, the series made it to five, and people all over the world play it competitively. In the u.s., I’ve seen the torch pass from the old diehards to the new pro players.
If a game has some promise to it, it will make it to at least part two. After that and it still doesn’t gel with the masses for whatever reason, then it’s on the chopping block. Remember SVChaos? It was somewhat promising, and It had a sequel. Never got to play it, though.
As for SF x T, it’s also promising, way more promising than SVChaos, however, it simply won’t get the same popularity as marvel or sf4. Is that totally bad? Not at all. A lot of games don’t get the marvel/SF treatment, but that doesn’t mean that they were bad games, and even if by some chance that the game did turn out to be bad, there will always be people to play it. It just happens that way, no matter how we all try to explain it. Smash was, at a time, a more popular tournament game in the u.s. than SF and marvel. But anyways…
SF x T will live as long as those who keep playing it. As for it being another tournament moneymaker? It all comes down to those who agree to do their part to make it that way. You don’t need EVO to do that. Sure it helps, but without them, or this site, it’s possible.
G K.
I think it was the part where you talked about sheeple just following the negativity from tournament players and TOs. And that’s why I said everyone was quick to dismiss the game with the validation of xyz top player not playing it or taking the game serious. But when other top players showed support for the game the argument switched to “stop dick riding, and who cares about top players they shouldn’t matter.” and I think you are talking about Royal Flush and the TVC crew, they really didn’t give a fuck. I followed them because they made TVC look awesome.
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First off, those are expansions.
Second, you guys just don’t get it. It’s not all about the money. It doesn’t matter if SFxT has more “content” than SF4 in the regular edition. I will not support the practice of selling chess pieces separately. End of story.
Well wouldn’t you want the reg edition to have as much as possible so there isn’t 3 iterations of the game.
You should have put your foot down on sf4 and at mvc3. I’m not talking to anyone in specific i’m talking to all of the capcom fans.
Capcom is known for milking. And don’t act dumb because it’s true.
It’s not all about the money yet the consumer pays for these games.
Why aren’t the other fans of said games complaining? Especially when mvc3 had locked dlc content on the disk. Shouldn’t this have been a fore warning? Nobody said anything. It’s like rising water about to rise over the flood gate. someone should see the looming danger. Then sfxt drops and everyone pounces on that and says no more capcom.
It’s not the game you should be upset about, it’s the company, it’s most game companies in general. It’s why i stopped buying video games in the first place. The market is filled with yearly iteration of the same game.
Don’t blame sfxt, blame the gaming culture as it presently is.
The fact of the matter is you still paid money regardless if it was an “expansion”. Did you get your monies worth? I’m sure you did.
If you like something you’ll spend money on it. I like sfxt i’ll spend money on it. I can forgive because i know capcom always does this, i’m just happy they got nipped in the butt for it. It’ll teach them not to try to swindle their consumer based. And it’s sad too because sfxt isn’t a bad game, it just has a bad rep.
Companies in general are only about money, that’s their intended purpose.
Hell, I thought this was a mostly American forum, isn’t that the thing you love?
Yes, but unfortunately that’s not the way it works. There are deadlines and budgets that have to be adhered to. The developer doesn’t have infinite resources. But at the same time, I wouldn’t have wanted to wait an extra 4 years to get my hands on SFIV, which wouldn’t have been able to have had all the balances and refinements that came from years of being played.
That’s true to an extent. At least when they were milking games prior to SFxT, they were still developing new content for them.
True. I own dozens of fighting games, including oddities like Battle Fantasia. I usually find something to love in all fighters. It’s hard to put me off… but SFxT just took the sliminess to a whole new level, that for the first time, actually turned me off of a fighting game and caused me not to purchase their locked content.
Trust me, people were complaining. If I recall though, Jill and Shuma were pre-order bonuses. Regardless, it was lame and I certainly bitched about it. Even when Mortal Kombat did the whole costume/fatality pre-order exclusive thing, I bitched about that. Those were purely aesthetics though, so it wasn’t really that big of a deal… but I did spend my fair share of time saying how dumb it was.
Well of course, you can’t blame a game for its faults. I enjoyed SFxT’s gameplay, but it was ruined by the big, smelly shit that Capcom took on it. Capcom has done a lot of good in the past though, and I’m not gonna boycott them just yet. I still love the company, I just hate what they did with SFxT.
I blame SFxT for taking this bad business practice to a whole new level. Having stronger gems available for purchase goes against the #1 fundamental of fighting games, in that it a
By all means, spend money on what you like. Just make sure you’re aware of what you’re promoting when you do so. Expansions and locked content are completely different things. People like to think they’re justifying SFxT by the amount of content that it has… which is a fair amount, but there are plenty of $60 games that have far more. SFxT reuses a lot resources in the same vein that MvC2 reused sprites. Tons of the models and animations were already done for a lot of the SF characters.
For now, I’m speaking with my wallet. Capcom did not give me their best effort when I bought SFxT. I’m not going to pay more money because they think their complete game is worth more than other $60 games. I’ve got news for you Capcom, it’s not.
SFxT is awesome. That is all.
Ea is by far the worst and best example. They’d grave rob u so u can buy the new madden.
In sf4’s defense it was… by itself at one point but to go against that im sure we have another update coming. As for SFxT it is in need of another version update via psn.
Chill with that shit.
Well put! I respect your comments dude =)
Why can’t we have more of these convos ppl. Why fling the shit around? no more monkey business. It’s good to know why they don’t like it. For me it’s like looking at a losing match. You lost for a reason and there are people out there that don’t like the game for their own personal reasons.
The problem with the game is that most of the people playing it are casuals who dont take it serious and will tire of it and just move on to whatever game of the month comes next(which was capcoms goal and makes sense on paper out of the gate). But if its gonna turn around n survive i think capcom needs to listen to the fgc a little more and actually implement some of the things the majority of serious players are asking for. It needs to go from a casual fighter to a bit more of a serious fighter. A big patch with ALOT of retuningand maybe a few DLC characters that arent on disc before its too late would help. If they wait too long itll be too late. SSF4 is still alive but AE came out too long after SSF4 originally did and it didnt breathe new life into the game like they hoped. They need to strike while the iron is still semi hot and deal with the issues people have with the game.
If capcom can add enough elements to make the game feel new without forcing the people playing now to unlearn and relearn characters it could turn it around. New gem packs and costumes are not the answer, its tweaks the gameplay itself.