Thor’s throw ilthe first time doesn’t count as a physical hit? Good catch. I need to edit the video I wonder what kind of damage reuslts I can get now!
What is this “vipers execution” you guys are talking about? She is as mind numbing easy as anyone in the game. The only difficulty you get in this game could be from how shitty your characters are, otherwise its a who hits who first, or cat and mouse game.
That was in reference to SF4. In general more characters can do more with less execution in this game than in MvC2. I think its a good thing since it lets you worry more about playing them properly than other random stuff but eh, not like the game is without its hard combos. Iron Man’s stuff is pretty beefy.
She’s really hard to play compared to the rest of the cast.
Just like it’s really hard to cook a cheeseburger compared to making a PB&J sandwich.
MVC3 players can’t handle much.
Even players like Marline Pie with Guilty Gear execution drop things with her, I wouldn’t say she’s easy, though a bunch of basic things with her are. People focus on stupid things.
Fact: Most recent combo that kills Thor for less than 2 starting gauges is easier to execute than her effective mix up. =/
Though if she’s easy I’d love to see a video of one of you hitting Rapid fire seismic hammer X3 assist summon on the second one during the prejump frames into a viper ball follow up at full screen. 
Her complex stuff is maybe slide loop difficulty level.
I think someone put it best in how a game should be designed, looking at GGXX it rewards you for tight timing and even makes its better characters have higher execution barrier while in mvc combo like “abcs,bbcs,otg+assist s,bbcs, otg+ assist s, c xx super xx dhc” you get tons of meter do 100 percent and put your opponont to sleep all in one combo.the otg system and long window for it just make for these long repetitions of extremely basic combos that stunt any innovation or cool wake up games
I’m not disagreeing with that, just that viper has light execution. 
I liked Marvel 2, Viper feels like the closest thing to playing 2 again. 
Hey guys, I came up with a set up for a dhc trick combo…do you think this is viable??
Its between Viewtiful Joe (point) and Deadpool (2nd)
I start with a ground series launcher air series involving air joes for extra damage, I then team exchange either up or left/right to deadpool and finish up the air series, katana rama otg to cuttin time, third slash go to slow which whiffs, then with joe I launch the foe and go into an air series with air joes finishing with red hot kick to air desperado. Its like 900K for 3 bars, 1 mil if I dhc afterwards…is it worth it? It gains all meter necessary if you start with 1 bar, however.
Not worth it, sorry.
You can get more damage than that with Joe/Deadpool for 3 gauges I’m fairly certain, what Joe combo are you doing?
Dang it. I feel like Joe is really weak and even weaker without an otg but I also feel like quick work is a really good assist as well. Should I just stick to m. upper combos to slow?? Much Less damage but good mix up opportunitys and less meter used…
Well Im not really sure of his best combos in the air so this is what I was doing
J.s and quick work for unblockable, st.l st.m st.h cr.h launch j.m j.h m air joe j.h jump cancel j.m j.h jump cancel j.m j.h medium air joe team exchange up or side, basic deadpool combo to cuttin time, then launch, same combo only at the end replace medium air joe with medium red hot kick xx desperado.
The Joe player I play against utilizes the air dash + viewtiful dive kick thing and it seems to get pretty decent damage in combos I know it lasts much longer than that but yours is off a spiffy unblockable so unsure. >.< What do the Joe boards say?
Hmm well Ive tried using red hot kick as well, maybe it can net more damage but like all the variations I try ussually only differ 20-60K at the most.
Yeah man, tron and deadpool is so scary with joe ( and maybe more people) because people get scared to attack because of gustaff fire then you come out with a quick unblockable.
They say to try this relaunch thing but I know hitstun decay is gonna murder it, havent tried it yet though.
I honestly think Joe has the tool necassary to be competitive, he just needs a damage buff. From all the Joe’s I have faced they have good ways of opening you up (seems like he has a solid high/low game) he just hits you with marshmallows and feathers after.
On topic about that DHC thing for him. IMO instead of ending the combo in Joes super (which I assume is where the 3rd bar comes from) why not try and find mix up/reset oppertunities afterwards? His supers don’t do great damage IIRC so ending in a super can’t really be adding that much significant damage after the combo.
I agree a lot with that. I land many hits, but it just seems that it only takes one to kill me for whoever I’m fighting.
Its about 80-120K more I think. I suppose itd be better to end it with an otg to slow but Im not too keen on using an otg assist right now. I cant think of any resets or mix ups really, even if there was a way to reset into a grab you cant follow it up with joe (except with an otg assist, again…) sigh I spose maybe I should go back to katana rama, but quick work just has been really useful for me.
Some characters just can’t fight on their own in this game and need a solid team with complimentary assists to make up for what they lack. It might suck that the 3 characters you want to use don’t quite work well together but it just how it goes. Honestly, this game has become much more fun for me when I decided to stop wanting to only learn the 4-5 characters I really liked and ventured to other members of the cast I never thought I would touch.
In every game I just pick who I like the most and stick it through till the end (I’ve mained Dan since Vanilla) So really they work pretty well for just characters I like. I like joe deadpool tron akuma morrigan doom and some others but really my favorite character is Viewtiful Joe for Capcom and Deadpool for Marvel, and I used to have Morrigan on Anchor but I think Tron is better for her assist so thats why I have my team… Its fun for me to play who I like (regardless of tier) and make them competitive.
does the trick work if x-23’s prime super was a DHC itself?
The damage on her weapon X prime isn’t reset, but if you DHC AGAIN after her super then you’ll activate the DHC glitch.
cool, thanks:badboy: