The Dead or Alive 4 Thread

[AlphaDragoon]

He also has said in one of his interviews about balancing DOA4 that “A wrestler shouldn’t be able to beat Ryu Hayabusa.”

Fixed it for Itagaki.

And if it wasn’t a fighting game, that would be exactly right. There’s no way in hell a average Joe professional wrestler would be able to beat a demon slaying, warship-destroying (from OG NG) superhuman with a magic sword and powers.

But since it IS a fighting game, maybe he should let go of that. It’s not really fair when you know without a shadow of a doubt that the ninja are going to be the best characters no matter what.

[System_1]

Fixed it for Itagaki.

And if it wasn’t a fighting game, that would be exactly right. There’s no way in hell a average Joe professional wrestler would be able to beat a demon slaying, warship-destroying (from OG NG) superhuman with a magic sword and powers.

But since it IS a fighting game, maybe he should let go of that. It’s not really fair when you know without a shadow of a doubt that the ninja are going to be the best characters no matter what.

Well sense Hayabusa holds back on everyone. . . .I’m still waiting on him to shoot fireballs in DOA5. . . .

anyone that would like to use Spartan in DOA4 . . . http://www.doacentral.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=226 . . .her section on DOAC . . . . .I went out of my way to get rid of almost all the bullshit posts and all the threads . . . . . .

[System_1]

Heh, I’m looking to get back into this game so add me guys. l History l

Since, I’m just getting back in to it again, all of the characters don’t feel neccessary new but I want to pick another to main. Any suggestions?

[spudlyff8fan]

Fixed it for Itagaki.

And if it wasn’t a fighting game, that would be exactly right. There’s no way in hell a average Joe professional wrestler would be able to beat a demon slaying, warship-destroying (from OG NG) superhuman with a magic sword and powers.

But since it IS a fighting game, maybe he should let go of that. It’s not really fair when you know without a shadow of a doubt that the ninja are going to be the best characters no matter what.

Yeah…I read lotsa interviews and I never once saw that (though it’s still entirely possible). Still waiting on a link.

[Aion]

Heh, I’m looking to get back into this game so add me guys. l History l

Since, I’m just getting back in to it again, all of the characters don’t feel neccessary new but I want to pick another to main. Any suggestions?

Go with Ein :wgrin:

[System_1]

Go with Ein :wgrin:

Alright man, I’ll main Ein now and search up some hardcore stuff on him.

Any BnB combos though?

[Aion]

Alright man, I’ll main Ein now and search up some hardcore stuff on him.

Any BnB combos though?

Yay!

After launching, his basic combo is just: p, p, 6p, k

Others are: p, p, p /or/ 3p, 6k,k

His launchers are: 33k; WSk; 3p; 9p*; 4f+k*; 9k; 4k**

*=leaves you backturned, so your combo from here would be-> 1k, 6p, k
**=Best done on CH

Ground bounce launchers are: 3f+k; 8k; and the last hit of the following string- 4p, p, p

Ceiling bounce launcher is 7k.

And that’s pretty much it for the combo/juggle basics. I don’t mind going into more depth if need be, but keep in mind that Ein is the simplest character in the game; so he’s very good to start with, and he’s also very fun to use

[Dallaz_D]

Yay!

After launching, his basic combo is just: p, p, 6p, k

Others are: p, p, p /or/ 3p, 6k,k

His launchers are: 33k; WSk; 3p; 9p*; 4f+k*; 9k; 4k**

*=leaves you backturned, so your combo from here would be-> 1k, 6p, k
**=Best done on CH

Ground bounce launchers are: 3f+k; 8k; and the last hit of the following string- 4p, p, p

Ceiling bounce launcher is 7k.

And that’s pretty much it for the combo/juggle basics. I don’t mind going into more depth if need be, but keep in mind that Ein is the simplest character in the game; so he’s very good to start with, and he’s also very fun to use

1k, 6p is your BEST FRIEND with Ein as well as 3p

[Aion]

1k, 6p is your BEST FRIEND with Ein as well as 3p

Damn straight. Especially after an OTG, you get some incredible mix-ups after that.

[System_1]

Hmnn, I wanna know what his best pokes, interupters and stuns are. I’ve been using 3p alot and 4k after block(after a laggy move). Any other moves I should use instead of 3p. OTG=?

Oh and yeah in depth is fine.

[Sorwah]

Yeah…I read lotsa interviews and I never once saw that (though it’s still entirely possible). Still waiting on a link.

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager.offset=3&cId=3145950

1UP: I always thought Bass was something of a simple character, and couldn’t really get into him. What did you do to him for DOA4?

TI: Bass has always been one of those troublemakers. By the very nature of pro wrestlers, they’re slow. So think about it, in real life if you put a pro wrestler up against a ninja who do you think is going to win? But we want to keep that feel.
**
1UP: When I was in elementary school that argument would come up all the time. People would say “Hulk Hogan would kick Bruce Lee’s ass” and I’d say “You must be dreaming; Hulk Hogan would never get within two feet of Bruce Lee.”**

TI: So the answer to the question is that a ninja would always win against a pro wrestler, and we want to keep that feeling with the characters. So what we’ve done is we’ve tried to create a character that, in the hands of an expert player, can really get the satisfaction of beating someone who is faster. Obviously you’d have to be really skilled to get the most out of Bass, but it’s going to feel real good if you beat Kasumi using him. **I don’t think of balancing and tweaking the characters to make all of them equally strong, because that gets rid of the good qualities and fun qualities of each character.

1UP: So it’s a risk and reward factor. It may be 300% more difficult to beat the game with Bass, but 300% more satisfying to win with him?**

TI: Yes. And I think that’s how it should be. I think this is going to be the ultimate fighting game out there. And who knows when or if we’re going to make another one, so we’re going to make it as perfect as we can get it, so I hope everyone will be in anticipation of this.

[roninwarrior24]

It’s official, then: By DOA5, the Ninjas will equal the Big Four in sheer brokenness. It’s only a matter of time before they start shooting fireballs, teleporting all over the place, destroying zeppelins, etc.

I love how Itagaki “balances” his games.

[The_Illuminati]

I love how Itagaki “balances” his games.

I love the logic behind this “balance”. “If a Ninja fought a pro wrestler. . .” what a dick.

[Aion]

Hmnn, I wanna know what his best pokes, interupters and stuns are. I’ve been using 3p alot and 4k after block(after a laggy move). Any other moves I should use instead of 3p. OTG=?

Oh and yeah in depth is fine.

I’m a little short on time right now, but I’ll post a quick link:

http://forum.doa-plus.com//index.php?showtopic=41

That’s the Ein Strategy forum. Scroll down to my post if you want indepth info on his ground game.

As for the former part of your post; use 6p+f, alot It’s actually unsafe on block, however it’s a very good punisher (it has good range) and gets you a nice deep stun.

A very good interrupter is 4k. It gives you a nice launch height (on CH), has distance and can beat a nice amount of moves thanks to it’s low-to-high transition and it’s nice speed.

2p is a nice interrupter, but used to be better before the silly patch. I can go over any more things later on if you want, but keep in mind I don’t have access to the game (since November ).

Good luck.

[System_1]

Thanks, so far the information on that site was real good but now I’m a bit confused.
7P and 4F+K (turn around)
CH 3P, PP6PK (light/mid) PP6PK (heavy)
HCH 6K, PP6PK (7P only light/mid) 3P, 6KK (heavy)

4f+k is back f+k right? Just like how 7p should be ub p. The thing is 7p is a charge and doesn’t launch so I’m assuming he meant 9p. Even then I can’t connect 3p pp6p since he is now backturned. Wouldn’t the best juggle be 1k6pk. it gives 53 damage on CH. And also what are some good untechables you recommened(or if there are any :).

What should I do at the start? Block or attempt to ?

[System_1]

Yeah, he certainly meant 9P.

There’s two ways of turning around btw, 88 and holding F.

[Dallaz_D]

And also what are some good untechables you recommened(or if there are any :).?

i use any launch ( not too high) then do 9p then 1k

What should I do at the start? Block or attempt to ?

2p

[System_1]

At the start it’s completely 100% a battle of frame speed or crush.

So use your fastest moves, block, or move back.

When it says “get ready” you can also move back or do any kind of evasive moves (the evasive moves part obviously does not go for Ein, lol.)

[Aion]

Thanks, so far the information on that site was real good but now I’m a bit confused.
7P and 4F+K (turn around)
CH 3P, PP6PK (light/mid) PP6PK (heavy)
HCH 6K, PP6PK (7P only light/mid) 3P, 6KK (heavy)

4f+k is back f+k right? Just like how 7p should be ub p. The thing is 7p is a charge and doesn’t launch so I’m assuming he meant 9p. Even then I can’t connect 3p pp6p since he is now backturned. Wouldn’t the best juggle be 1k6pk. it gives 53 damage on CH. And also what are some good untechables you recommened(or if there are any :).

What should I do at the start? Block or attempt to ?

For bt combos I already said you should do 1k,6pk–however if you launch them high enough, you actually have time to tunr around and do pp,6kp.

Here’s a video of Ein’s untechable (not made by me): [media=youtube]KcTr4RGskzk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edoacentral%2Ecom%2Fforum%2Fviewtopic%2Ephp%3Ft%3D16280[/media]

Try them out to see if they work or not, since I ain’t 100% sure that they all work.

[System_1]

Usually untechables aren’t that worth it, especially since they reduce damage. I think if your character can do a good amount of damage without sacrificing that much, and a good safe uncounterable followup afterwards, THEN it’s worth it.