The Dead or Alive 4 Thread

kane_warhead · May 30, 2007, 2:19am

Any tips with Jann Lee?

jimmy1200 · May 30, 2007, 4:57am

any good kokoro vids out there. i like her style, and want to see it on some high level play

jakob002 · May 30, 2007, 2:29pm

fighter_guy999:

And yet you have played over 30,000 matches with all of these so called bothersome limitations that supposedly aren’t making you any better at the game…

Online is the shit, as it is with most games that have online multiplayer. It’s fun, it’s convenient, and depending on the game, you get more gameplay than anywhere else. I never claimed it to be the purest form of anything. What I did say, which you say you agree with, is that online in THIS GAME is where the majority of competition is. Your argument was that there were too many people playing online and not enough offline (which kind of proves how good the online play is for this game).

If you don’t think it’s “pure” enough and would rather play offline, then get out. But, don’t act like a weasel and compaign online about how bad online play supposedly is compared to offline play, as if you care about the community of gamers more than you do making money.

Thats funny, I don’t remember you playing at The World Cyber Games or Championship Gaming Invitational either…

Congratulations on winning some local tournaments where in your words, there is “no competition…”

If online and offline where identical, 100% no lag, you would complain about noone traveling and playing for money because they are all online (which is pretty much exactly what you said in your previous post) so what’s your point?

And where are these “Phantom DOA Players” that would rather be playing offline? For all of this talk with any so called offline community, the solution is always the same. It’s like the movie Field of Dreams. If you build it, they will come.

Again, were you at The World Cyber Games? Were you at Evo when they actually had DOA 4? You talk all of this stuff and then when the time comes that there is a major tournament, you aren’t there. The thing you seem to forget is that DOA is not an arcade game. I will spare the “arcades are dead” argument, but dude seriously, had online play never even come to consoles, DOA would still have the same scene Offline. You act as if online play was taken away, that magically all these players would start popping up in tournaments all over the world.

This isn’t a fairytale.

Well, thanks for the info on that, “Mr. Zen Master…”

Seriously though, your online record is nothing to be laughed at, but what has happened is that you have gotten to a point where you have convinced yourself that you are so good, if you lose, it’s because of online limitations, and you aren’t truly satisfied if you aren’t playing for money.

It’s sad really, because you just picked the wrong game to want to make money off of. Had you chosen Tekken:arazz: or another fighter that gets a lot of run at arcades, you would not have this problem (unless you didn’t live near a hot spot and then you would probably not be any good at the game since there is no online play, how is that for irony?)

I’m sick of my long post getting screwed up so after typing it 3 times i’ll just get to the point.

Online play sucks people go to offline tourneys from across the country and even outside the country to avoid online bulshit and to play with other players that share the same passion as they do. Xdest and PL would kill you plain and simple even i’d probably kick your ass. Go post to the offline SF players that online is better and get there reaction. Go post on gamefaqs or Xbox.com where all the online scrubs post. In fact i’ll kick your ass online i have every fighting game out there pick a game and you’re gonna get worked. Online is only good for casuals with friends or to make an alternate account to piss scrubs like you off. In fact you’re probably a dummy account yourself.

Also Tekken is garbage especally DOA is far more balanced than that bag of dogshit. Go play Virtua Fighter thats better.

Lastly please do us all a favor and go buy a brand new used car and drive it off a fucking cliff
K thnx.

Now that i got that out the way continue with the DOA topic SRK needs some DOA over here and the offline scene does need to grow thats why i’m gonna be joining the mix later this year.

Rambler · May 30, 2007, 5:01pm

Yeah he’s got the strongest single part throw in the game, but it’s a while-standing move which means that he can only try it in really obvious mixups like after a 1p. Being a heavyweight isn’t worth much in this game, unless you’re Spartan.

4649 · May 30, 2007, 6:14pm

i play Kokoro too, she’s really fun, she reminds me of Akira in VF, has really insane high pressure okizeme mindgames, plus Akira’s elbow into doublekick, can’t beat that
and she has sabaki too :x

Low Sweep (Kokoro) VS escapingjail (Christie/Spartan)
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skatan milla (kokoro) vs. peachen (helena)
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random chinese match, kasumi VS kokoro
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another random chinese match, hayabusa vs kokoro
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Shinobi558 Helena vs. Bogetsu Kokoro
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BBoyDubC (Kokoro) vs. Black Mamba (Leifang).
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Kasumi Chan PMS (Kokoro) VS. RATIZ (Kasumi)
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RATIZ (Kokoro) VS. Phantom Shinobi (Kasumi)
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periodically if i find decent matches i’ll drop in here and post 'em to keep this thread active :wonder:

System_1 · May 30, 2007, 6:29pm

Nice to see DOA getting the attention it deserves.

Too bad you’ve got trolls running around here who couldnt seem to pass first grade english though.

Sorwah · May 30, 2007, 7:37pm

It does provide mix-up with crouch dash, 33*64F+P and 33P.

Oh and 33P doesn’t High crush. [3]P is his only non-low-attack high crush but you have to hold 3 down for like a whole second, which is too long really. Plus it leaves him at major disadvantage.

Yes, the developers thought Bass was too good in 3.1 so they decided to nerf him so hard (Like Sean in 3S) that he couldn’t possibly be anywhere higher than low-mid (where Itagaki apparently wants him) His throw damage is pretty much all he has since he hardly has any stun game. He was one of those characters who heavily benefited from priority and guaranteed ground game. The fact returning from back turned was lowered from 5 frames to 2 frames hurts most of his back turned throw frame advantages and being able to Hold out out of the front turned frame advantage throws hurt him as well. However Frame Advantage throws still give you that same frame advantage just you have to still mix-up your opponent with mainly slow attacks and if they do hold it’s the frame advantage + the hold frames.

Also his 1[P+K] can duck highs and at almost full charge duck mids.

Kobayashi · May 30, 2007, 9:36pm

HI SORWAH!

caps

The_Illuminati · May 31, 2007, 4:43am

It looks like the entire DOA Central is here.

Perfect_Legend · May 31, 2007, 9:48am

Jann Lee strats for which game DOA 2 3 or 4?

CarpeNoctumXIII · May 31, 2007, 9:51pm

Been trying to get into this damn game lately, any Ayane strats?

System_1 · May 31, 2007, 10:58pm

http://forum.doa-plus.com/index.php?showforum=29

Here’s some good Ayane stuff.

roninwarrior24 · June 1, 2007, 2:03am

You make it sound like the tiers are rigged. Not that that’s a bad thing (actually, it’s kind of funny).

I still haven’t played this game enough to say anything useful (I’ve only played DOAU and DOA3.0, so that doesn’t say much), but as of right now, I’m kind of torn whether I should play Jann Lee, Kokoro, Ein, or Spartan. I don’t want to competitively use the Ninjas, so these four are my best bet.

System_1 · June 1, 2007, 5:03am

Spartan. . … go forth and rape. . . .

karate_ghost · June 1, 2007, 5:10am

hay fellas, have you all heard dat team ninja is thinking about doing a DOA for the ps3? (i read this info in this month’s ELECTRONIC GAMING MONTHLY) this info blew my mind, and cause the mag also states on how team ninja was getting together on the PS3 (like ninja gaiden) and was getting other ideas on thier next big thing.

this mag maybe next month’s (yot all know how thd mag thats suppose to be in stores next month, but you get it this month?)

System_1 · June 1, 2007, 5:15am

I don’t really so how which system it’s on matters. . . .and it’s called NG Sigma. . . it’s kind of been talked about for months now. . . .

karate_ghost · June 1, 2007, 5:21am

i think that this is a breakthrough for TN in thier quest for multi franchising thier awsome gaming prowness. AND it gives PS3 fans can get a taste of Team’s ultimate gaming capabilities instead of buyin a 360 to get a piece of the DOA pie. see where im coming from tat?

Sorwah · June 1, 2007, 9:14am

Well based on inside word I heard, he thought Bass was bottom in 3.1 “because he’s slow.” and wanted to give him more in 4. One of these for example was that 33P Guard Broke and the follow-up P put into a hit-throw (not a knockdown) that did a running jumping powerbomb that seemed to leave him at disadvantage. Only footage we have of this is in the original DOA4 trailer.

He also has said in one of his interviews about balancing DOA4 that “A wrestler shouldn’t be able to beat a Ninja.”

spudlyff8fan · June 2, 2007, 8:04am

Yeah…EGM is stupid.

But it is indeed possible that the next DOA could come to the PS3.

Link?

Bob_Poundmax · June 2, 2007, 11:51am

That guy really takes the idea of Ninjas WAY too seriously…

It’s not really all that surprising to see Team Ninja’s is interested in Developing for the PS3, seeing that they have a rep for developing for the most powerful system. I think that it will be good for the series to be multi platform because it gets more competiotion to it.