Yeah, not everyone is going to agree. Just like when I watched Batman Gotham Knight. That movie was fucking terrible, but I didn’t mind that people liked it for God knows what reason.
Oh, is …Returns better than that pile of shit, by the way?
It is my favorite of these DC DTV productions so far.
That’s a strong endorsement. I’ll check it out :tup:.
It pretty much HAS to be better than Gotham Knight, which again, was fucking abysmal.
Thanks for oversimplifying a preference. I’m definitely the type who can look past nostalgia, otherwise I wouldn’t give Robocop credit, or any non-Conroy Bats.
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I love Kevin Conroy and I think he’s the most appropriate choice for Batman in general, but FM’s Batman is a little different. As many people have noted here, he’s crazy in the head–but he’s still human, and I think Weller strikes that balance well.
It’ll be interesting to see how they handle… you know, the big fight between the two guys at the end of the book. The absence of narration might mean a restructuring of the scene. And it might be a slightly different challenge to present Batman as a credible threat in motion on the screen as opposed to on the page.
DVD rip of Part 2 has been leaked. Enjoy.
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Batman The Dark Knight Returns Part 2 DVDRip XviD-DiSPOSABLE
Watching Part 2 right now. How in the fuck did this get a PG13?
Seriously, this cartoon in violent as shit. It’s pretty awesome though. Part 2 is WAAAY better than part 1. I personally think it’s my favorite batman movie besides dark knight.
I was wondering that myself.
Anyway, as with Part 1, this was pretty damn strong stuff. I’m not sure I can imagine a better adaptation. Bravo, DCAU guys. I think you’ve just made the best Batman movie, full stop.
I would totally pay for both of these if DC would just sack up and admit Bill Finger’s role in creating Batman. Until then… sorry, DCAU guys.
I must admit, ??? is a legit badasss in this., and I’ve never been a big fan of him. Awesome shit with him showing up at the beginning
And lol at Batman assaulting officers. I don’t recall him doing that before unless they were crooked
Only issues I have with part 2:
Still didn’t explain that fat guy who assisted the Joker and how he constructed those doll androids. I know it’s set in the future (or 1980’s future) but I would have liked some explanation.
The guy who voiced the Joker sounded too much like Paul Lynde. I’m not saying every Joker voice has to be similar to Ledger or Hamil but I don’t think the voice was particularly threatening in this.
One character being interviewed (I think voiced by Frank Welker) did the Fred from Scooby Doo voice. It’s pretty blatant.
Would’ve liked a little more backstory on Green Arrow too.
Otherwise, pretty damn good. Violent as shit, especially during Joker’s rampage. Warner Bros. must’ve bribed the MPAA to get this a PG13 because this is probably the most bloody and violent Batman project ever released.
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Even better than phantasm and BB:Return of Joker?
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I would say better. Far more violent than Return of the Joker or even Under the Red Hood.
some things are better left to mystery, like what happened to Green Arrow’s arm, how Big Boss turned evil and the Clone Wars. 2 of those things have been ruined with unnecessary prequels.
Though I must admit I was wondering how far ASBAR was gonna go
Joker’s rampage…JESUS CHRIST. I don’t see how they got away with all of that.
Nice fight at the end btw, not quite neccessary, but enjoyable. In agreement with you guys, probably the best Batman project ever, (Dark Knight aside). Superb movie
This movie is better than the entire Nolan trilogy.
The ending of Part 2 could have been a lot better. It was too anti-climatic and lacking.
What Mask of the Phantasm does well is look at Bruce Wayne as a person. It gives a sense of the loneliness, isolation, and hunger for a purpose that he must feel. Phantasm probably does this better than any other Batman work. It’s essential stuff, and I concede that DKR doesn’t even try to look at this territory. But what DKR does that Phantasm doesn’t is place Batman in a sociopolitical context and let him off the leash.
In the end, I think how interesting Bruce Wayne is as a person is a minor part of Batman’s appeal. It’s much more interesting to look at him as an expression of ideology. To be blunt, there are times when we all wish we could fix the world by pounding it into shape with our fists. It’s not the noblest part of humanity, but it’s in there. Batman is an expression of that.
The reason The Dark Knight Returns is my favorite Batman comic is that it understands this and pursues it, where other versions of the character seem either not to understand it or to be too afraid to pursue it very far. The Nolan movies pay lip service to the question of whether or not Batman is ultimately good or bad, but they don’t do much with it despite all the talk. DKR never hedges. Gotham debates whether he’s good or bad, but, much like Batman himself might, DKR takes the question and pounds it into a new shape. It asks not whether or not he’s good, but whether or not he’s necessary–and it has a definite opinion about the answer. This was and still is an incendiary idea for these silly little funnybooks.
The thing that worried me most going into these animated adaptations is that they would hedge where the book didn’t. But the adaptations never hedge. They don’t slavishly follow the comics, either. They recognize that movies can’t recreate the experience of reading a comic, so they instead try to create a new experience that is analogous to the experience of reading the comic–different, but alike in the ways that matter.
The choices they make of what to remove, what to add, and what to change must have been hairy, but they work very well. It’s a well-crafted piece of movie storytelling that makes a great companion piece to the book.
Also, my god, the balls on these filmmakers. Not only did they keep the Joker merking innocents left and right and Batman kicking the shit out of cops, but they even kept the President’s uncanny resemblance to Ronald Reagan.
I will never see coffee mugs the same way again…