Let me guess. You must be one of those guys who wants to bust up the workers unions because the fat cats brain washed you, which is essentially destroying the greatest thing to come from of your area of the US. Good luck with your 60+ hour work week, and I hope that the privatized social security raises the age limit to 75 that way you can really earn your success.
The above is speculation based on your post.
One more thing is that we aren’t all Bill Gates or the guy who created facebook. When there are people in the US who are working for an honest living and still aren’t making it, then there are problems. Your argument is invalid. Most of the rich and super rich started off relatively well to begin with, and they continue to **earn **they’re success by oppressing others. We can’t all be rich right? Gotta keep the poor man down so we can have the life we want. Just so you know, as is, there are corporations that outsource to other countries to make a few bucks more in profit. Everyone knows that without laws to protect workers rights, employment in the US would basically indentured slavery to a higher degree.
I sure hope for your children’s sake that people don’t end up looking at them like the human waste that you apparently view your fellow human beings as.
Honestly I don’t follow the news at all. Gotta say thanks to a couple SRK members for posting threads like these. Never good to be in dark about serious issues.
No problem. I’m going to give it a couple more days, then consolidate the information. If anyone wants to help do that then they can and I will entail that information in the first post. Lets try to avoid walls of text. Pictures/charts/diagrams are encouraged. Include source(s) of information where applicable. Remember to keep the point as simple and clear as possible so that as many people could understand as possible.
Lets also avoid responding to trolls and replying with reaction pictures/smilies/etc.
I’m not on some corporate hatefest, I’m not mad at them for exporting jobs, they’re just going for their own self interest just like they are supposed to in a (mostly) capitalist society…
But the government going out of their way to keep companies afloat is a problem, let them deal with failure just like everyone else has to in America when no one wants their products and services…
This “jobs will trickle down to middle and lower class people by throwing money at the problem” nonsense has to stop…
have you noticed that the democratic party is much more war mongering than the republican?
The problem with this emerging party is that if it doesn’t get what it wants its going to get it the hard way, because it seems like a movment pushed by and organized by the people.
Its also important to note that they may call the rule of law, but which rule of law? If they push this rule of law, its easy for it to spiral out of control and radicalism takes over. The conservatives, will push for their own rule of law and it will be just as radical.
I also find it sad that people praise Regan so much, when he is responsible for all of this mess, and the coming shit storm.
To be honest, the conservative Tea Party sound more liberal than the liberal party. Progressiveness in the 1800’s lead to capitalism, which led to a type of socialism. If that socialism is taken to the extreme you get radical states like Nazi Germany.
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Left, Liberal, Moderate, Conservative, Right
left= marxist, communist, socialist
liberal=good lol,
moderate= democrats (maybe a tiny bit liberal), and lazy uninformed ppl
conservative= republicans
right= military, nazi, facist
I find it ironic that christians are conservatives and generally vote republican, and most republican candidates back christianity, AND YET if Jesus was a politician he would most definitely be liberal. Think about it.
The right which is extremely military, and extremely power oriented and elite oriented is where you turn into Nazi Germany. Like the Tea Party, they’re closer to Nazi’s than anybody out there on Wall Street right now (unless there is Nazis down there lol.)
By rule of law I meant the constitution, and the judicial system. That people should be governed by justice not by greed and money. That even criminals in positions of power be held accountable for their actions.
Sorry for the bad explanations, it’s late and I’m ignoring my girlfriend on the phone who lives in another city to write this. Hopefully you get what I meant earlier.
Funny thing is that many conservative Christians are trying their hardest to change that image of Christ into one that would resemble a Tea Party member. It’s rather sad actually. They have already tried to say that he was rich, this was after turning him into a European for centuries.
They aren’t and that’s the problem. Fucking weird that they media would squash a riot just like that but, it just gives me more reasons to go to prison planet and look at all the links crazy ass Alex Jones posts. His show is daffy and views hysterical at times, but god damn it if they don’t spend a lot of time linking to legit news sources with good articles; fucking weirdest shit ever. Although even they weren’t covering the riots on wall street on their news section (not a conspiracy person, just like checking out what groups are about).
No one gets fired because of “wall street”. Either after 18 years your uncle did something stupid and got fired, or the company was poorly ran and the company went out of business, or after 18 years your uncle isn’t useful any more. If I am wrong, then please explain “how” wall street got your uncle fired. What investor called your uncle’s boss and said “hey I am done jerking Fred off, fire Pedoviejo’s Uncle” You make no sense.
You are full of lies. Most US millionaires started out with less than nothing. The capitalist system favors the poor. It is much eaiser for a poor person to become wealthy than for a middle class or upper middle class person to become rich. What keeps people poor is silly ideas such as the 40 hr work week. You say good luck with my 60+ hr work weeks? 60 hrs is a light work week for me, I have been working 80+ for several years now. The formula is simple but requires discipline, something a 40 hr. lazy union thug couldn’t do. It requires to figure out how much money you need to survive. Cut out the xtras in life (cable TV, trips to the bars, movies, ect) start a business and learn to create positive cash flow (this can take several tries, my first 4 businesses failed but #,5,6 are good) Use your businesses money to buy assets (houses to rent, equipment to rent, stocks that pay dividends each quarter) Money from assists is called passive income, money that you don’t work for but your money working for you. Once your passive income is greater than what you need to survive, retire and focus full time on building up more assists like new start ups that will employ people. Why you invest with your businesses money instead of your jobs income (also known as earned income).
Because with earned income you are investing after you pay taxes, with passive income you invest with money before you pay taxes. Since the average tax payer pays 50% in taxes, to invest $1,000 inn a fixer-upper, you would have to earn $2,000 to have $1,000 to invest. Business moey goes twice as far as paychecks.
Remember when I said it is easier for the poor to become rich than the middle class? As a poor person I figured my family and I need $1,300 a month to survive, but a middle class person has to often have $4,000 a month to survive. It will take the poor person a lot less time to create assets that pay him $1,000 a month than the middle class person who needs to create $4,000 a month in passive income. After several years, I have two homes, one I rent, 3 cars, one I rent out, 4 DJ rigs that I rent 3 out to other DJs, and my wife’s Camera equipment cost more than my car. When we started out we did DJ and Photography both for $200 after several years now it cost between $1,698-$3,298 to hire us. That’s because we stopped going to the bar, worked 100 hr weeks, and held back reward for the greater good, and didn’t cry or even give a shit if someone is making more money than us.
Probably trying to suppress it because it’s a bunch of liberal nutjobs (so the media is protecting those towards whom it’s biased), and not the super-evil, somehow racist (even though it’s the folks on the left at gatherings throwing slurs and spitting on people) tea party.
Not everyone is like you sir. Not everyone wants to be some bullshit entrepreneur elitist nut hugger, and work 100 hour work weeks and ignore their children.
Honestly you have some good ideas, I admire that you’re a hustler (that’s a compliment). But there are students coming out of college with their degrees that aren’t going to get jobs because of the state of the economy, which will cause their already high student debt to increase. There’s honest hard working citizens who get laid off and can’t afford their medications. People’s homes getting taken away by credit companies, and the banks and big business gambling people’s future away. Soldiers dying in the middle east, because the US thinks it’s job is to police the world. Notice how only brainwashed self proclaimed patriots “support the troops” while all of the vets who know the horrors of war want an end.
But hey, as long as things work for YOU then everythings ok right? Stop being so dam SELFISH. This is everybody’s world not just yours.
I’m not pleased with the state of the US, and the state of the world. And if people want to fight to change things for the better then let them. I see people worshiping greed, taking more than they need. I see US’ terrible history of relations with other countries. I see poor education systems. I see ball players making millions, and teachers barely making enough to get by. I see corporate corruption and greed, siphoning money away from the people and the economy into their pockets. I see ignorant people who only care about their immediate self, and not enough to care that their lives are being controlled.
Wtf, how can you even say anything good about the tea party? Supporting christianity. You know Jesus was a liberal right? He would be pro healthcare, anti capitalism and greed, and he wouldn’t take fellow human beings from their homes and send them back across the border. He’d be down there on wall street holding hands with the hippies.
Talking about how we should go back to the original ways that the constitution was interpreted? What you want to take things back before women, and people of color could vote or had civil rights? You want to take things back to slavery? You’re going the wrong direction, we’re supposed to move forward.
Supply and demand. If only about a thousand people in the world could competently teach elementary school, and ESPN wanted to pay public schools millions to broadcast Geography class, there would be plenty of money in school. The only real way to undo this would be to try to get people to stop following sports; all the best in that endeavour.
Either your reading comprehension is lacking, or your desire to start a Tea Party/Christianity discussion is very strong.
It’s called media overexposure, and poor values. If big stations would make education a focus, or the government or president would make education a focus. Messages everywhere, media, propaganda. It could change.
I’m not against sports. I love sports too. But you have to admit the world could survive without athletes, but it needs teachers. Education is important, one of the most important things.
People would just not watch those channels. There’s a reason that a big portion of TLC’s programming now involves fashion/cupcake/hoarder shows. Plus, if under your view the government doesn’t do enough to make education a focus, I imagine changing that involves more spending from a government whose spending is already out of control (particularly if this involves the subsidization of networks who don’t want to lose any viewers).
I know your right, but in a perfect world it should be like that. Education should be made a priority. If not through the media, at least give more money for public education. I’m from Texas and we have poor public education, and very high drop out rates and rates of teen pregnancy. It’s sad.
