Stop making shit up, the build given to FingerCramp for the event was not the retail one. A lot of things changed since then.
They did not split the pot… mike confirmed this on LI joes stream…
They are not “rivals”… sorry but over the numerous years i know a rivalry. if you couldnt tell from their “intro screens” it was some WWE stuff then come on.
Arturo made a mistake bringing that camera around…an being blinded by popularity…
They are all gaming friends/gaming buddies…
TFGM was actually right for once with his amazing rant…
This does not hurt us at all… this was not tournament, this was a private invite. The whole set up was obviously something to generate hype/viewership for both parties (cross counter - fingercramp) not for the money in which everyone is trying to make it as if it was rigged. If you know this community then you know players usually will split a POT and not play. Yet to get beat up 5-0 is not a staged event an JAGO has yet to LEARN or play the game as much as others have. I mean you can simply look at the cross assault player themselves. Its flowchart SF4 with a tag button. These guys are not dumb and know it takes more than gaming to make a living. Yes they pretended to be rivals to create something much more… we as a community need to stop trying to decipher something that is not there. Especially when it was not tournament and when it was obviously lopsided.
As far as the rage against arturo… well Im cool wit arturo. I just know he has explaining to do as to how the film got out. Yes he said he streamed but never ‘uploaded’ it but you have VIEWERS who are recording. How else do you think you get those witty avatars and clips. An when you do listen it sounds like he was fishing for more. Yet again… it doesnt ruin what they have unless the immediate blowup killed that ‘friendship’ (ummm arturo did room with jago afterwards sooooo)… but I doubt it cause everyone chimed in with BIG talk but amazingly tones changed when they were presented in a situation where everyone was available (please see TFGM talking to MARN whom spazzed out).
See people would have known that if they’d played the game, or even bothered the watch the Cross Assault streams instead of just making assumptions. Capcom wanted it to be a very aggressive game, it encourages you to stay in your opponents face and the best way to tag is to do it as part of a combo using meter, which not only makes meter more important, it makes tagging important for extending combos. You need to tag to get the red-life back as well. The majority of the people criticizing how Jago played saying that he must have thrown it have no idea how the game actually works.
If you watch the vids, you will see plain as day, hell even S-kill says it, Jago is doing the white knight thing and just not tagging. He said this in the first match, the very first match. Maybe, just maybe, Jago is only good with one player so far in the game… Maybe his Juri is ass. Like it is seen in the vids where he put her on point. The only reason he tags in those vids is because his actual good player is not in the game yet and he has to get them in.
He did not tag because he sucks with Juri. Period. He is not even good with Kaz. He just knows some combos and maybe one set-up. He got blown up over and over again.
Who cares if the “feud” is fake? Listen to what they say. 8 years ago when were still looking up to Justin, did they ever believe people like them would be flown form each coast just to play a first to 5? Let alone for $1000? Is the drama real… Who cares?
Did Justin really Not like DPC when he played him for $1000 with Jill/Ruby/Ken? Did sanford really have problems with Duc when their MM went down? How about Fan and Toan, they played 3 different times, each time with more of other peoples money on the line… Did they hate one another? Who the Fuck cares? Did they play? Did someone win? Was that shit hype??
Look at it like this. Bar fights had Justin, Noel, Viscant, Knives, Fchamp, Floe, Combofiend…etc the list continues… But the main fight on the card was who. Two people that could not beat 3 out the 7 people I just listed… We knew that Mike was going to lose but were still more hype to know the results of that rather than Justin vs Fchamp… I would say they did a good job of Don Kinging up a fight that should have never been streamed in the first place… Real or staged, without the “beef” who would want to see Mike vs Jago? Instead of Jago against someone who is actually good at the game?
Champ is right. Those of you who are bitching about this, it really show that you are new to this FGC. When you are in that hype moment, you do not care how it started, who it is about, or how it will end… You just want the hype!!!
I don’t know about that, he chose her for pair play, over Kazuya.
To add to this, I guess people don’t know how to have “rivalries” on game…heated ones, literally hating a person’s play style and or attitude in game. And be “cool” or hang out afterwards.
I blame this on lack of face to face interaction nowadays. It use to be you had to put up with all type of people for hours at a time, and then alot of times you’d hang out afterwards and eat or chill…walk the mall or whatever.
Now people don’t know how to take anything and just sit behind there computer screen’s typing the 1st thing that comes there mind
After another day of training, and how did he do with her? Be real honest. If you did not watch them all then do not say, but his juri is ass. No one is playing her and he is not showing any tech with her. Now look at Ryan Hart and Raven… See what I mean?
His Juri is ass and Mike bodied him… I like how when mike loses it is legit but when someone else gets bodied by Mike it is and obvious thrown match…
Arturo is a fag and is concerned with twitch views on an account that is shit… All he does is ride spookys streams and stream the same shit he is. If someone else who have done this, like anyone whom is not a complete scum/douche nozzle, then when that person said, “Oh I was just trying to blow up the fake rivals, but the matches are legit” we would believe them. But this is art so everything becomes suspect.
Who lies to their “friend/acquaintance” just to get views from people they call “stream monsters.” Really, only persons who should be “exposed” in this is Art. Exposed for being a douche. Like marn said, “Who would hang out with this guys ever again for any reason? Even if you want the views!!!”
I agree his Juri isn’t very good, but when it comes down to him choosing a character it’s safe to assume he has faith in that character, which he apparently didn’t have when he played Mike cause he rarely tagged to her.
I’m not saying I think the match was staged but there are definitely things to take into account, from both sides, when looking at things like this.
I didn’t watch/listen to Marn because I kind of can’t stand him. He’s just a drama queen so of course he is putting his two cents in but really who is he in this situation? Is he anymore or less educated than the random stream monster or forum goer in the situation? I don’t think so.
And they knew Art was streaming, he even called him out for streaming all the time, if you hang out with him, or ride in a car with him when you just accused him of streaming everything, why would you talk about shit that you don’t want to be streamed?
The build at FC WAS NOT the retail build.
You can’t tag immediately on wakeup, you have to find another opening.
Jago was ass at the game and Mike has a hard on for the game and plays it as much as he can.
I’ve been watching this and I’m still not interested in buying it. I was only curious when it was first announced with the Alpha build and didn’t like it way back at NCR. I’ve been watching and keeping tabs to see if I’d have a change of opinion but nope, doesn’t look like my cup of tea.
Also re: pot splitting between Mike and Jago… they’re both sponsored players. I’m sure their sponsoring agreements well exceed the mere $500-$1000 one time bonus they’d get from being on Cross Assault. Jago purposefully losing also doesn’t do his own show any credit because of its target audience. Folks really think he’s looking at the short term $500 gain versus what he’s worked on with FC so far? If he’s sucking on purpose, why would people continue to watch his tutorials? Would they rather not watch the arguably more ‘staged’ stuff that CrossCounter seems to throw out these days?
And most FGC players are friends at the end of the day. They get salty and smack talk each other because that’s inherently how more hype matches (and money matches) came to light in the past. Sometimes people forget fighting games are a hobby that brings people together, and having hollywood rivalries because of the way it’s publicised today is only another form of promotion. Folks should see the banter rather than say ‘omgthiswasstaged’.
the FGC has always been WWE in a sense.
Some beef has lead to real life fights and shootings, other is just in game or for others entertainment.
The sooner the 09 and later crowd learns this the better…But hey some people still think that wrestling is “real”
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I don’t know man…the rivalry’s have never been fake or manufactured. There was always a realness to it. Like you knew deep down these various people didn’t hate each other but it was still hype seeing the matches play out cause there was a sense of animosity and such. With Ross/Jago, i didn’t get that. I knew the crap was BS from day 1 and to me its like whats the point? To do this because the stream monsters demanded it? Fuck them. Thing is you can’t blame the people who were naive to it all being fake for assuming the match was fake as well.
Larsoney, are you just trying to argue? His juri is ass. He put her on point in some matches against Mike and he got blown up even faster than he did with Kaz. He is not good at the game, his is not good with Kaz, and he is Ass with Juri. Admit these things and then try to reply. Do not assume anything, go off the footage we have… and that footage will show you his Juri is Ass and she made no difference when she was around, even in the second day he was playing with her. That is why he never switched to her!!
And dude, Art clearly says he is not streaming in the vid. Andre ask Ricky if Art is streaming because he “knows” him better. Art continues to lie to get the footage he wants to get the views he wants… That is slime, period! They spoke because they were lied to!!! Period!!
And look what they’re doing now.
You’re welcome Capcom…
You can repay me by making Mega Man Legends3
Do you have to be in neutral or standing to raw tag? Couldnt seem to do it whilst holding down back after wakeing up.
So wait, what’s this about a Redemption Island twist that could let an eliminated player back in the game? I’ve heard that rumored but I haven’t seen anything definite yet. If it’s true, I’d put my money on Kor re-entering.
Whether it’s the final build or not is besides the point. Unless the version jago has and the one on cross assault is so vastly different they might as well be two different games, my point still stands. In any case splitting the pot is nothing new.
Neither of them are making a salary worth talking about being sponsored players, most don’t in other esports games either. $500 waved in your face is tantalizing.
As far as Jago losing, lets assume here that the first to 5 was staged. Now you have a new theme for Jago to pursue on his show and with his character that he plays. While mike ross does the same on CC acting all cocky and shit. Like have none of you seen wrestling? Cus that’s essentially what they’ve been doing. Nothing wrong with it aside it being funny that people take them seriously. In this context tho idk why people are 100% adamant about it being a real match and mike being sfxt king for the moment.
I missed the intro of the day. Can someone explain to me why Bronson is/will be in team SF’s room? And paired with Renic?