I think someone mentioned earlier in the thread that Justin and Marn lost in the semi finals.
Probably because, no offense, they’ll lose. That and there’s like 20+ quals in Japan, not one.
Uh, FFA players (who are now Denjin regulars) have been doing that shit for years for the area’s 3rd Strike scene…
The team was Justin/IloveuJoe, and they lost to Jan’s Gief (a REALLY good Gief, btw) a couple of matches before the finals. Not to mention it was single game, single elim, so yeah.
20+? Try 100+, counting the numerous preliminary qualifiers as well (i.e. 4 preliminary tourneys, with all 4 winning teams battling it out round-robin style in the block finals just for that one spot to SBO. Now repeat that for the other 30+ qualifiers…).
Besides, an American has already qualified for SBO in Japan. Props to HeartNana for being the first to do so.
Justin went with LI Joe and they got taken out by Crow and Jan in the semis. Fubarduck and Jonlo took out Crow and Jan in the grand finals.
Wow, really? I thought 20 was a lot when I randomly threw out that number. Lol.
Neato. I was just throwing out a random example. As far as I know, their aren’t a whole lot of European players that go to Japan and improve the SF4 scene, so I figured it would have been helpful.
Ok let me just say some stuff to clarify anything.
John Choi went to France to compete in that cvs2 tourney, so he asked me to come along with him for the tournament. I checked the tournament and what it had to offer and saw that they had sbo quals and all these types of singles game and team games. I then ask the organizer is it possible for me to compete in their thing, they said fine no problem. So now me and marn goes and qualifies and rep the US as much as possible but people are still entitled to their opinion if they dont like the fact that we qualed under as euro spots and their are people saying good shit.
But anyways, one of the statement saying if we qualified in japan, it would’ve been ok. But a smart ass said we can’t… Here is a history lesson about SBO history. The first time I tried to qual for SBO 3s I was teamed up with John Gordon and I lost to Pyrolee team. Good stuff. But I qualed for Capcom fighting jam to go to SBO. I go to SBO and I entered the last chance qualifier with Ricky Ortiz in 3s. We made it to the finals against Issei who got 2nd in evo2k6 and I (Justin Wong) beat him in 3s to qualify in the main tournament for 3rd Strike. Soo that statement is out of the window.
Me going to Europe wasn’t my plan entirely. I was asked to come and I asked if I can do such and such and everyone said ok sure not a problem. If Europe’s organizer did have a problem, they could’ve said “NO” But everyone was very welcoming and helped us with everything.
So I thank the stunfest staff for accommodating us and to everyone who loves to hate on me and marn. If you ain’t being hated on, then your a nobody. I’m glad to know that we are a somebody. And to everyone who aint hating on me, thanks for everyone’s support.
And I guess to all the people who said I would lose at Denjin. It’s possible to lose but its not impossible for me to win, so it aint my fault that some of your heroes in cali got fucked up at ECT
HOLD THAT L on your CHEST because EC is rocking your WC shit in SF4!!!
Greatest post EVAR!!! Yeah, I witnessed WC get Beast Coasted 
:wow: Dr. Chaos proved what east coast was about, and Mike Ross proved that his Honda is the best. But, EC is still strong. Can’t wait for EVO. Congrats Wong and Marn. Props to gootecks and ross for coming out and showing who they are.
Believe me, everyone on the West Coast that plans on going to the Denjin qualifiers is breathing a sigh of relief now that Justin has qualified in Europe. How do I know? Cause I’m one of them.
not only did ricky and justin win that last chance qualifier at sbo in 3s but finals of the last chance qualifier for tekken5 that same year also came down to me and justin (americans in a japanese qualifier) for all you people saying americans cant win in japan =P
huge grats to marn and justin well deserved!
LOL
Good shit marn and Justin.
I see you dropped that Abel bullshit for SBO…
As for the general discussion. France wasn’t rocking their Under Armor (Under Armour?). It’s up to them to protect that house! If they couldn’t handle SBO level competition, then why do they deserve a spot? The spots are spread out to give players a chance to compete for a spot. Not to guarantee that somebody from that particular location gets to go. The French had a chance. That’s all that is necessarily meant to happen, when they are given a spot. It’s not a spot reserved for a French citizen…
I could take the same argument and say Justin shouldn’t be able to qualify at Denjin because he’s not from Cali. That’s bullshit.
If you can get to the tournament, you can win the tournament. Especially SBO. Everyone is complaining because they think Justin/marn took the easy way out and went to a “free” qualifier.
Here’s the real question:
If the qualifier is free… why do they deserve a spot?
This works out. Now the US can have 3 teams represent, all of which, presumably better than the French. SBO is about TOP competition, not kinda-topish competition based on location.
That’s a narrow view of it. There are probably dozens of potential teams that can body anyone who qualifies from outside of Asia in pretty much any game. We can only speculate on why there are international SBO spots, but all I’ve ever heard from the big boys who have gone to Japan SBO time is there are tons of players who could qualify for free if they flew over here. Whether or not qualifying in another country is right or wrong is up for debate, but its obviously not against the rules. The point I’m trying to make is it’s pretty unlikely the decision to give Europe or the US a spot is based purely on skill level. If you want to imply Europe doesn’t deserve a spot, America probably doesn’t either.
I’m not saying Europe doesn’t deserve a spot, and America does.
I’m saying Europe’s qualifier allows Europe to have a chance at a spot, just like ours do. This allows the Europeans the opportunity to compete for a spot in SBO. That’s all SBO qualifiers are for. They’re not meant to guarantee somebody from that particular part of the world gets to SBO… it just gives them that chance.
If somebody were to come to Denjin next month, from Japan, and ransack that whole shit… more power to them. Obviously, nobody American at Denjin would have deserved that spot.
Correct me if im wrong, but when hayao and pino went to stunfest last year they werent allowed to sign in tougeki qualifiers, why to change this year? This was unfair and messed up, doesnt matter how much you defend it.
Trust me, the only real reason they get their free qualifier is because the staff was scared to say “no” to usa players and they could decide to not go to stunfest, a lot of people go there just because they hear top players will be there. Lets see how it works for them next year when nobody signs for tougeki qualifier only because random players from usa go there for their easy mode spot
I thought you needed proof of Japanese citizenship to play in their regular non-last chance qualifiers.
Good shit Justin and Marn!
Good shit USA!
All naysayers: fuck you!
If that’s the case, then I humbly retract my previous statements.
Still though, wouldn’t that mean you and Marn will be competing in SF4 as European representatives, seeing as how you two qualified at a European qualifiers and will be flying to Japan for SBO, courtesy of Stunfest(any confirmation on how the Europeans usually send out their reps?).
lol just stop it already fobi0. justin wong is from new york, and the last time i checked, new york is in the united states.
I have absolutely no problem with the US team qualifying in Europe. The rules didn’t say they couldn’t so I really don’t see why they shouldn’t. Talking about it now with a couple of the UK guys still here (yeah, there’s a few of us still in France - Rennes is fucking awesome, btw) and we put it into perspective.
It’s a very good thing for us Europeans to have the best competition available, regardless of the contents of the tournament. The SBO qualifier is a HUGE prize to many a fight fan, do there was already something to play for. To have Justin and Marn play was great because it meant that if any EU team won, it means that EU have the quality to go to SBO and do something (Justin mentioned he qualified in Japan) - it also meant that the EU were on a very high level, but it was evident that we weren’t prepared for what the US team had on offer…now we have a common goal now and that is to just aim higher.
People would be talking different had EU won, so really, there’s nothing much to say, than to talk to the organizers. I’m assuming the organizers weren’t too bothered either, but we’ll see when there’s another qualifier. chunkis says that if a US player wanted to join a EU team that’s be much better as a rule, so a European is safe-guarded to go to SBO…it’s a good choice I think, so if anyone wanted to organize something of that flavour, then they can (2EU + 1US for 3s as an example).
To that other guy saying that ‘EU aren’t ready for hi-lvl comp’ - HAV was it? That’s kind of a lame statement to make. It’s unfair and we don’t deserve it…it’s like you’re saying we have no hi-lvl players. Of course we may have to work, but it’s not like we’re just complete newbs to the game. We deserve more respect than that.
In closing, I’ll be fully supporting the team representing Europe at SBO - they did a great job, played really well and they’re very fine fellows. Nobody in the event minded at all that they played, it gives us extra incentive to play that much better, which is always good for tournaments. I’ll most likely see you guys in Japan in August.
‘Good luck out there!’
-Merc, Metal Gear Online