The Asgard Theater: Thor Video Thread

Hey guys here are some matches from hAZbats 3.1 &3.3 I made top 8 in both 3.3 & 3.4 but the videos aren’t up yet for 3.4 I’ll post them when I get a chance.

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hazbat 3.1: 30:00,53:20

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hazbat 3.3: 27:00, 1:10:50, 2:29:25, 2:37:15

Good matches. I would really suggest switching out Iron Man because he didn’t seem to do a whole lot for your team. Although, if you want to keep him on your team and get DHC into IM from Thor then I suggest either going for Mighty Punish to Proton Cannon after the bounce or you could do H Mighty Spark after Skrulls OTG assist in the corner to make sure that Proton Cannon hits completely.

Actually I’m glad you brought that up b/c in hAZbat 3.4, I threw in my new team (Thor(b)/Iron man(a)/sentinal(a)) to try something other than skrull (I pretty much want to drop him) and with this team I have two bnb’s (one corner only and one mid-screen/corner) which both deal 1,000,000 plus dmg w/ proton cannon connecting the whole time. And your thor mighty punish into proton cannon is very useful too, I’ve been using that recently as well. Also my iron man’s gotten a lot better (combo’s, tac’s (including the infinate which I pulled off at 3.4 as well)) not to mention in 3.4 I got a perfect w/thor (with the help of my assists of course). I just wish the videos would come up so I could show you how much better I’m doing w/ sentinal than skrull. Thanks for your input I really appreciate it; but I do admit this team needs a lot of work (just trying to find that perfect Thor team (w/ characters I like to play even if they’re low tier))

Oh that’s good to hear about improving on Iron Man and I think that Sentinel works pretty well with both of them. I’ll be sure to check it out because I want to see what someone can do with him. In addition, I’ve gone through some Thor teams to make him work for me which is why I have my Avengers team and now I have my 2nd Thor team even though I need to get better with Doom.

Honestly Thor, Skrull, Sentinel is an a very very good team. People underestimate Skrull’s lvl 2 xf. Pops, SSS is essential if you’re running an OTG assist, try to get that timing down if ya can.

@Pops: Nice showing, definitely liked your movement and hit confirms. As others have mentioned I don’t think your team has/had a good synergy so I’m really looking forward to seeing your new team in action. Don’t hesitate to post videos :slight_smile:

@Driftingsort: You are absolutely right about Thor/Skrull/Sent being a very good team. I can hardly think of any character in the game that benefits as much from Drones as Skrull. However, if Pops doesn’t feel comfortable playing Skrull anymore, then he just shouldn’t.

Of course I’ll post them when Haz, the owner of team hAZmat puts them up, but he not going to till next week. But, on Oct. 20th the last hAZbat for season 3 (3.5) will be on their twitch.tv page. Hopefully I make top 8 again (hopefully even better than 7th) but if you guys can watch it; It should be on around 8-9pm pacific time (they usually run late there lol), just want to show you how much better I’m getting w/ Thor/Iron man/Sentinel and of course to wish me luck :slight_smile:

You cna do SSS with sentinel assist as well, you don’t always need an otg

FMR’s right, you don’t always need the otg; my set-up requires drones to pick them up for mighty strike (I technically have two (one is mid-screen to corner (and of course corner too) w/ drones & the other in corner w/ fully charged mighty smash w/ drones too)) I just want that 3.4 video up so u could see it; hopefully after today he’ll have them up (I’ve never seen anyone do the mid-screen w/ thor & drones so I’m hoping this is new tech for u guys to see)

Here you go guys, Haz finally put them up yesterday so I hope you enjoy the matches (except the one against forward lol)
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hAZbat 3.4: 30:20, 1:18:30, 2:33:30

Pops, generally I like your speed and movement with Thor. It’s not perfect, you seem to be on autopilot sometimes. I don’t really see you adjusting to where the opponent is or what they are doing, but just continue applying tridash pressure regardless. You go for some risky mighty smashes as well. As you face better and better competition, I think you will get blown up for it. I think this is why the strider assist caused you so many problems, you need to completely change the way you play to be wary of it.

But really, the main problem is that you do all the hard work when you open him your opponent up, and then make some crazy mistakes with your decision on how to end combos! I can definitely see some execution errors too, but here are the things I would straight up have done differently:

30:38 : Very risky M Mighty Smash. I actually think that should have worked, the HSD shouldn’t have been too bad there… you might have linked it too late. But be aware of that possibility of a drop, you could have potentially lost Thor there for no real reason. Why not just call drones with the H smash?

30:45: You had all the time in the world to visually confirm that you had a hit, you need to find a way to combo after that. M Smash should have been fine.

31:20: Here you should have rolled out and instantly Mighty Punish DHC into Proton cannon. I’m fairly sure you would have caught Vergil in recovery, and even if you did only put him in block stun, you have another meter to go through to Hyper Sentinel Force. I don’t think you needed to lose Thor. Always be on the look out for a drop and how to get him out and do damage if you can.

32:27 : I have no idea why you end this combo in Mighty Thunder! Almost anything would have been better for a Happy birthday. You could have just charged strike’d in the air into Mighty Tornado, DHC into up proton canon etc. Or even better, delay that air series a fraction so your charged H Smash works into Mighty Tornado or another M Smash xxx Mighty Tornado. You gave up a huge amount of damage here, and you would probably have instantly won the game. With one character remaining, all Thor has to do is wait for the opponent to come to him and XFC into a command grab and its game over.

33:09 : Again, KILL HIM. Charge H Strike and go for SSS. He’s dead.

34:28: And again work on your hit confirm after this. I feel its possible.

34:40. I think what works here is the sj early cancelled tridash into kara-H command grab. You basically need to cover the horizontal space ASAP in the grap in dantes hyper, but you went up vertically instead.

37:12: No reason to do fancy combos. He has no life, and you have max bar! Were you looking to kill without spending meter? I dont think sent would have needed it all…

119:53: SO RISKY! I would have just killed. Surely plasma storm reaches that high?

121:53. You land the M Smash and proceed to drop the combo (and almost lost the round because of it) Instead I would have just popped XF right on the ground bounce and finished him nice and easy.

For the last fight, the commentator mentions you don’t know how to fight viper to well and if that is true, what I would do in this situation is just maybe try to pop XF early and grab her out of something. Getting rid of an immediate problem is sometimes necessary so you even have a chance later (especially since there are unblockables on this team… too much of a problem.)

235:18 Arghh you do this combo again! :frowning: You throw the match away again here. You HAVE to kill both of them here. You are just fighting doom if you do, which is WAAAYY better. Do anything else. Charged H Smash XFC M Smash or Tornado then XFC into something or DHC into proton canon… ANYTHING!!!

235:40 I actually don’t think there is any need to rush doom down. Just zone him!

236:25 Hmmm can you not DHC before the end of Mighty Tornado to get the float state and therefore up proton cannon hits? Even if a lot of the hits miss, you can DHC again into plasma storm to kill.

237:30: Okay, NEVER FLY AGAINST STRIDER ASSIST.

P.S. Nice perfect there. haha. Oh and take this all as constructive criticism. I hope it helps!

@ Chef Borjan

Thank you for all those comments on my play Defiantly need to take those into consideration. I do have a couple of questions to ask: 1. Do you think this team is capable of doing good in tourneys? or should I start from scratch again? (like everyone else in this forum I’m trying to find the perfect thor team based AROUND Thor himself) 2. Any advice on helping me fix my Thor? (i.e. you said I need to change my way of playing completely, but should I go about doing that? I need a step in the right direction.) 3. Any good counters to the strider assist? (I.E. You guys were talking about how Thor can beat Missiles(one of the best assists in the game) w/ Air H MS)
Oh and thanks about your comment on my perfect. (Him and I are actually good friends but our rivalry has gone on for months now every time we always seem to face each other in losers but I’ve always come out on top)

If anyone else has some ideas for me too I would very much appreciate it :slight_smile:

Pops, I straight up watched the archive of the stream a couple of days ago because I was so interested in how you did during that hAZbat and that match against Not Soy was great. You did a lot of great things in that match that were very impressive and I can’t believe he raged quit at the end lol.

I think this team is viable in tournaments but as we all know playing a Thor team is an uphill battle. The only things I can suggest is to work on Iron Man and Sentinel as much as you have Thor so that both of them are a major threat after Thor dies. I know that may be difficult but I think that Drones works very well for Iron Man like it does for many characters in the game.

@ pops. I defiantly enjoyed your gameplay! I have been using Thor for a while now and iron man\sent more recently. I was thinking about using that team, in that exact order, but was hesitant because:
A. I wasn’t sure if that team would be good enough when I play tournament level players
B. it’s not quite an avengers team!

But after watching you play, I think that it’s a solid team with good synergy that can be good in tournaments. It’s a fun team to play and watch. My only critique is you should go for more command grabs with Thor. At superjump AA situations you can mighty spark, air dash mighty hurricane or mighty strike dash mighty hurricane. They are very hard to avoid with thors 8 way dash. If you are looking to improve your ironman neutral game, try some box jump s behind drones and if it is blocked you can still go for some high/low mixups with his very fast superjump x down dash.
Anyways very inspiring play!

Haven’t watched your video yet, but when I do, I’ll get into it. Looks like Chef got you covered though. The best way to beat Strider is to land a hit, and snap him in immediately. The assist is designed to be completely anti-Thor, and he’s in the perfect spot on anchor, so when you see him, the snap should be your goal. Snapping in general is a good thing to pick up. Sometimes, screwing up a person’s team order is a heavy blow itself.

There are ways to sort of punish Strider as an assist, but that’s only if your play is on point, and you can deal with the shenanigans the point character does as well. The way to go about it is to bait the assist call. They’re only gonna call it while you’re in the air, so get in the air, fly, and wait on it. :l: or :m: Spark will catch him, but again, your timing needs to be on point. Practice it in training mode so you can get an idea of it.

Now there’s a risk with that. People could run under you making you cross up your input, people could be shooting some homing projectiles at you, they may even do a full screen hyper if they see that you’re beating up on their assist. You gotta be ready for all of that, so only do it if you’re confident in your ability to punish and confident in their ability to be too scared to move/unable to reach you.

Another potential punisher to Vajra would be a meaty j :s:. Its hit box is big enough and arches around Thor to knock out whatever’s above him. The advantage to that is you don’t have to worry about directional inputs.

Again, only if you’re feelin’ yourself. Otherwise, go for the snap and kill.

Ehhh… sorta. You will never beat the truly top tier teams, but hell, I don’t think mine will either but it is what it is. Your damage output seems fine, but your team suffers from a few problems in that it seems a little tough for you right now to convert off assist hits (but I think that can change) and your DHC options seem ‘okay’ but not great.

Also, you team doesn’t have a huge amount of ‘derp’. If anything its far too fair (not having a teleporter is massive in this game I think) You need to work on some really cheap ‘inescapable’ shit to stay competitive in this game. So hit that lab and find some set ups…

Okay, so what I meant about changing the way you play was more directed at how you were still on autopilot with your rushdown against a team with the Strider assist. I’ll cover that in the next point, but I’ll talk about changing the way you play first. I think you need to do a couple of things. Firstly, you need to utilise a zoning game a little stronger. You have a few strong horizontal assists plus Mighty Spark. Use them from time to time, and frustrate your opponent into coming to you. If you tiger knee L Mighty Spark in combination with Unibeam, you completely cut off the normal jump approach.

Also, I think you need to learn your assist use a little more. Yes I can see you use it, but I’m not seeing clear reasons as to WHY you call assists when you do. Perhaps think about things like after hard KD’s calling drones to get free wake up pressure, or in the neutral using Unibeam more effectively in general. Are you perhaps worried you can’t cover the your assist call? Try normal jumping up, ADUF, then call an assist and come down with a hammer or Mighty Strike. You opponent will have to eat that, as if they try to punish the assist you will bop them from above.

Finally… yes you are pretty much always rushing down and trying to physically hit the opponent. This becomes predictable, and you can get hurt really easy in this game when the opponent knows that you are going to do. Mix it up more. Fake out the opponent to keep them guessing whilst keeping yourself safe. How about H mighty Strike at normal jump height or something. Or just throw sparks at SJ height even when the opponent is right on the ground to keep them guessing.

Its not so much that you need to change the way you play completely, but you need a few more options to become a lot more rounded. And this is especially true when facing certain match ups.

Okay, so you really need to be much more attentive to what is happening on screen and when/where Vajra can be called first of all. I don’t think that’s happening right now, otherwise you still wouldn’t be trying to go nuts in the sky. There are a bunch of tactic that can be used to swat the assist call, the ‘easiest’ being the moment you hear the assist call M Mighty Spark xx Mighty Tornado… but try it in training mode, as DJ has mentioned you can use many different attacks but you must remember to be safe from the opposing point character when doing so. So maybe try it out at SJ height. However dealing with strider is hugely important. You not only wreck a massive part of the opponents gameplan by removing Vajra, but now you don’t have to deal with anchor strider.

This brings up another important point… you gotta be able to hear the game in a tourney setting to deal with assists!

I actually sorta disagree with this. I’m coming to the opinion that Thor must use the THREAT of his command grab to be scary, rather than the command grab itself.

So basically yes use it in the right way, but do not base your Thor gameplan around landing Mighty Hurricane. You can get a massive amount of millage out of the fear it brings though.

@ Anim8td_fan
Thx lol the thing is he got up b4 the hyper killed him and ran out the front door. But after wards, we’re still buddies. Also I like IM/sent B/c of the fact joker uses them so well (even though i’m not a big fan of him, hes good but not great (thats just my opinion)).
@ cbashchin
I agree but like chef said its more of a scare tactic than a good combo starter.
@Legendary DJ & Chef Borjan
TY both so much for helping me out w/ this I’m defiantly gonna take this into consideration when heading to the hAZbats tomorrow (which is @ 8-10pm (like I said b4 they’re slow lol)) I hope u guys get to watch me and wish me luck. :slight_smile:

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SRY one more thing…anyone got any matchup experience w/ viper? (I don’t remember if I asked this b4 just making sure) I need all the help I can get against forward.

Some drunken casuals we had on Friday. Needless to say everyone was more than a little sloppy, but it was fun. We don’t have many serious players here so don’t be too harsh in your critique :sweat: :

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