"The answer lies in the heart of battle." Ryu Video Thread

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yo g’s

this is me getting beat up by a chun at a pick-up tourney. [media=youtube]LqadR-teh-Q[/media] i’m mostly proud i didn’t eat an ultra through an FB

there’s another one of me on the channel but it’s more of an exceptionally bad set for me than anything worth critiquing.

^ MONGOOSE

Firstly. You didnt mash DP often enough. I have mashed DPs in front of you a trillion times and STILL you just dont get it :mad:

k you feinted a fireball from really close. I dunno why you would that its hella risky. Youre obviously hope they guess FB, but what if the Chun DID gues FB? You would prbably have lost to a hazanshu, at least in chip.

I think you allowed DUCK to have all the pressure. You didnt really advance at all in round 1. Coulda used a lot more C.MK. Even if it doesnt hit it does limit the opponent’s game and build pressure.

After your first mashed DP in round 1 you shoulda mashed another. Seriously, he only punished with throw, which means its not that big a risk. Id say its a 50/50 as to whether the 2nd would hit or not, but you win on damage cause DP does more damage than throw.

In round 1 there were also a few very questionable times when you didnt know your ranges. You have to know at bare minimum Ryu’s own ranges to the pixel. Just go to training room and practice finding the right range with all your pokes.

Game 1 Round 2

The FA VS Chun works when you make them believe youre throwing FBs. You didnt throw any FBs and still did FA after FA. Put the pressure on first, then do it.

EX SRK on wake-up. nice mashing but why the EX?

Glad to see youre getting some combos down

round 3

jumping FAR too much

Dont forget the Jump-in OS SRK VS Chun

J.MP juggle shoulda been to ultra

Youre not thinking about spacing. You have to use your FBs and bate hazanshus more and also more C.MK. you look like youre trying to get right on top of chun (I mean fair play, maybe you like chicks with big legs, but ultimately those sexy legs are just gonna smack you up)

GAME 2

Round 1

Hes guess youre gonna jump now and is anticipating and punishing with air throw. You shoulda changed your game first time that happened.

ROUND 2

Again, you gotta have diffeent layers to your game, different set-ups etc. Youre sticking to the same stuff and hes getting more and more of an advantage.

OMFG I am SO proud. You hit SRK FADC ULTRA!!! YESH !!!

Thankfully his teching wasnt good. You shoulda really used more frames traps before hitting that throw. I think you hit it the exact same way you hit the previous one

Good to see youre putting more pressure on, just try to do it with less risks (i.e less jumps, FAs etc. Use Ryu’s solid pokes for that pressure and occassionally hit F.FP to enter mix-ups)

Were you constantly trying to counter at the end of that round? Just block and play safe.

Well…

Chun-li ground throw: 140
Ryu MP DP: 130
Ryu HP DP: 150

You’ll do less if you go for the one that has less chance of trading. Although counter-hit can increase the damage on the first hit.

k you go even on throw but you get the pleasure of mashing DP, which is every Ryu player’s god given right. :smiley:

lmfao i can’t tell if you’re serious about the dp mashing. i probably shouldn’t have been afraid to do it a bit more looking at it now but i’m proud of my blocking.

j mp juggle was bad execution, don’t worry i know i’m supposed to do it i think i just got a little overexcited.

at the end i don’t even know what happened, i remember being really surprised because i’d never seen duck play like that. i thought i was trying to back up or something so he couldn’t throw me or tick into the flippy kick for chip but i was probably pressing buttons or whatever.

but yeah, so more fbs better spacing mash harder pretty much? oh and learn the OS’s

Yeah youre kinda doing the right stuff in the wrong order and the wrong amount lol.

You FA, which is good, but its only good when the chun is expecting FBs, which you didnt really do.

You jump, which is fine on occassion, but its used as a surprise during a ground game. You didnt have the ground game there so your jumps failed.

You just gotta realise that Ryu’s entire game is FBs and C.Mk. Those are the building blocks. You have to zone excellently with them to either a) make the opponent mak mistakes you then punish, or b) make them feel certain youre not gonna do anything else then surprise them.

Other shit is character specific, and the character specific stuff can generally be determined by asking “how are they gonna get around C.Mk and FBs”. you then look at the answers to that question and have punishes ready.

so like with Chun…

HER ANSWER : YOUR RESPONSE
Hazanshu : FA
FBs : Cancel with your own FBs
FA Dash : Occassional F.FP
Ultra : Get her to waste it by using feints
Super : As above

gets harder because she then has answers to your answers, you then have answer to her answers to your answers (LOL) etc etc.

Daigo vs Sako FT10: [media=youtube]a3BbqK4JeTo[/media]
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Did anybody watch the 10-8 battle between Sako and Daigo?

One thing that gets me in this set of matches is the number of times Sako attempted Dive Kick after knocking down Daigo. He was extremely successful also and I think this was the single biggest contributor to Daigo’s defeat. My question to you guys is why on earth did Daigo not attempt to DP the hell out of the dive kicks on wakeup? Everytime Daigo got knocked down and Sako dive kicked it was as if Daigo was free! I understand that dive kicks can be ambiguous but why not attempt to DP? its better then attempting to block(getting it wrong 90% of the time) and eating a huge combo!

Am I missing something about Cammys dive kick? From what I remember, DP beats dive kick.

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Did anybody watch the 10-8 battle between Sako and Daigo?

One thing that gets me in this set of matches is the number of times Sako attempted Dive Kick after knocking down Daigo. He was extremely successful also and I think this was the single biggest contributor to Daigo’s defeat. My question to you guys is why on earth did Daigo not attempt to DP the hell out of the dive kicks on wakeup? Everytime Daigo got knocked down and Sako dive kicked it was as if Daigo was free! I understand that dive kicks can be ambiguous but why not attempt to DP? its better then attempting to block(getting it wrong 90% of the time) and eating a huge combo!

Am I missing something about Cammys dive kick? From what I remember, DP beats dive kick.
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I think he may have been trying to mix it up because he did attempt to dp alot of the Dive Kicks - mainly in the corners though. But Sako was timing his kicks quite deeply- pretty much making it free since a DP would trade, a wrong block direction guess would lead to a combo and a correct block guess would be quite safe for Cammy. He was simply unrelenting with his pressure!

Frank

ok heres the deal. I AM a Daigo fan (big time) but I am not saying this as an excuse. WTF happend to Daigo at SB5? He did not play at all like he usually does. What worries me is that he didnt play like normal at SVB either. Just wondering what other peeps make of his recent performances. somehow methink hes going to retire soon .

I’m not a daigo dickrider/fanboy, I hate daigo dickriders, but Daigo looked really tired. In fact, like 5 minutes later, he was completely knocked out on a couch. I think that was the biggest reason. Also, it was PS3 and he wasn’t using his own stick. I wonder how much that affected his game since he mainly plays Xbox360 and online… I can understand his loss against Andre earlier in the day. But what really make me scratch my head was his match against Mike Ross. WTF was that. Either way, stay free daigo lol. Also, Art making controversy of Daigo not wanting to play on stream, not wanting his money matches to be streamed anymore. Now channels on youtube that have Daigo replays are having copyright claims against them, like 0Kenzo’s for instance. It’s crazy. We’ll see what happens tomorrow in singles. I’m rooting for Momo to take it.

**ok heres the deal. I AM a Daigo fan (big time) but I am not saying this as an excuse. WTF happend to Daigo at SB5? He did not play at all like he usually does. What worries me is that he didnt play like normal at SVB either. Just wondering what other peeps make of his recent performances. somehow methink hes going to retire soon . **

I think there is lag issue with their monitor, You can see the same kind of mistakes happening when he was in england and perform
bad. Like poster above said, he was probably very tired also. 2 best of 10 vs japan’s best + jet lag, this can throw anybody game
off. I hope he dosent retire.

usa vs the world…he didn’t care one bit.

about the actual SB5 tournament, he lost to super safe dictator…I personally saw that coming. Dicktator is too safe and Andre is a good player.

During the SVB period i think he was thinking the most about changing his main.

but yeah, overall super is showing how much Ryu got nerfed. In my opinion the patch might fix some sh*t because Ryu and Sagat are the one that got hit the most, and imo that’s because they wanned to see where they want Ryu and Sagat to be in the tier list. Look at them now? people hardly play them, like Sagat all TU 100 dmg? or Ryu super trap, that Rose,Dhalsim still have or shittier 2-hit dp that leads to overall big nerf damage output in all his main combos.

I’m sticking with Ryu tho. Once the patch comes out I’ll see if this game is still worth playing, because most of the players right now are gravitating thoward the higher half tier roster and the game is getting boring really. (I mean, one of my first 4 characters that i have mained in SF4 was Rose, and now in super i completed dropped her because of the bandwagon for her safe game and u2).

I don’t think Daigo is going to stop playing, he’s actually making money…so…

p.s. main issue i have also: people speaking a language that he does not know and screaming in his fuckin ears !!! JESUS CHRIST THOSE MONKEYS…

I agree, those are defeanetely bad playing conditions having too much noise and people around. Also when youre a star
like Daigo , everybody want a piece of you. I dont know how all this affect Daigo, but hes probably use to playing
in better and more quiet condition.

Honestely this is not decent conditions to perform at a high level. They should protect Top player space better.

The reason daigo has attained what he has is due to his ability to play in the face of immense distraction. He did not lose because of anything the crowd did.

He was tired. But so were the rest of us. (I was absolutely ragged by end of the saturday.) And at least he had the opportunity to rest before the finals, just like the other 31 players.

The tourney could have been run tons better. But give credit where credit is due. Andre and Marn did good. Even if it was a fluke (and I’m not saying it was even with the very lucky ultra), that’s just the nature of tourneys. Because shit like this can happen, it makes the usual domination of the top players even more remarkable.

Edit: And no. There wasn’t a lag issue with the monitor. I didn’t personally get a chance to play on it. But nothing I saw from the earlier games they put up on the stream suggested anything like that.

What if Daigo was just MAD trolling? He’s been taking trolling lessons from Ono and he’s gonna start playing like garbage so Capcom not only drops any notion of nerfing Ryu for AE, but instead actually buffs him back up to Vanilla SFIV levels and BAM, the Beast is back we all get the Ryu we remember so fondly!

…I can dream, can’t I? Please let me dream. :slight_smile:

good shit. couldnt agree more. taking out escape on ryu tatsu is going to hurt some matchups like honda and fei long.

taking out air tatsu escape is really going to kill the balrog matchup though. how will ryu get out of the corner vs balrog?

i am not giving up on ryu though, because i can’t imagine why they will force players like Daigo and Fuudo to switch their mains when the arcade edition drops. Daigo plays for money now, so it’s his job to perform. If they nerf ryu more he will have no choice but to switch main characters. For some reason, i think capcom will do the right thing (at least i hope).

For anyone thinking Daigo is washed up, 3 weeks ago he went 10-1 in best of fives against the best in the world. Do you really think he is washed up? Why would someone who probably makes the most money in the world playing SSF4 quit? Why do i even bother commenting on ridiculous statements like this, LOL?

Even against Sako he won the first 5 in a row and many of the later matches could have gone either way with sako landing a last second ultra through fireball, etc… When cammy loses her instant dive kick, Sako is going to have a really hard time dive kicking over his cr.MK.

I thought the Daigo vs Sako match was pretty much dead even. Sako is easily the best attacking player i have ever seen, way better than poongko. Daigo is easily the best defensive player i have ever seen.

Daigo also smoked mochi in their race to 10. I am not saying that daigo is the best, but he is still kicking ass.

it’s very funny how stupid people are sometimes dealing with ‘results’. all they say is ‘a win is a win’, ‘a loss is a loss’, blah blah blah without taking into consideration any of the outside factors that actually have a direct impact to the result themselves, and when you try to simply lay out the facts, it’s all of a sudden “take daigo dick out of your mouth!!” “BURN THE FANBOY”.

hahaha dumbasses. ok! let’s take the chess grandmaster, strip him naked, keep him up for 4 days without food and sleep, put a gun to his mouth, give him a 1-minute clock and have him play vs me and say if he loses i’ll kill him. if i win, does that count? a win is a win right? i’m the best chess player ever!!!

right.

on a different note, only match i’ve seen so far is the us vs international, and daigo definitely seemed off. he got s.rh when he was trying to c.rh during footsies. TWICE. that’s not something you see often. don’t know if he just sucks, don’t know if it was the sticks, don’t know if he was just tired, but one thing for sure is that it wasn’t his normal self.

It’s just too much of a hassle trying to take into account all the different variables that might help one player succeed over another that have nothing to do with anything we actually care about in the game itself.

If your chess master goes about claiming that the reason he lost is because he didn’t sleep last night, well… I really don’t care. Next time, he should manage things around him better. I’m not going to wonder what would have happened if he slept. Only if it’s a consistent deal where someone is specifically targeting this person above all others just to hassle him would I care. Discrimination is bullshit.

And even with all the haters, I think enough people at the high level respect him enough to not put up with that shit too much. So I can’t see something like that going on here, even with all the screaming and taunting shit.