"The answer lies in the heart of battle." Ryu Video Thread

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921

Uhhhhh… dude only has like 700 BP n you lost…?!

anyway… I thought you played pretty good except for a complete unwillingness to mix shit up. I did like your use of overhead. Thought you repected him a little too much on wake-up . You coulda used F.FP more TBH, especially in game 2. Oh and your range of C.MK needs a little work. It was good, but playing this level good aint good enough.

Also,… think im right in saying this. You allowed him to play a passsive style a lot. He spent a lot of time reacting to what you were doing, which you allowed him to do by resepcting him. Shoulda been willing to step it up : upping your speed of hados, using F.FP to get in and mix-up… yah, just feel you kinda limited youself a bit cause of the hwole “Its Alex Valle” thing.

922

Just watched the games and you did really well. The matches were close and could have gone either way. In one round i think valle got momentum and you got caught with xup tatsu a few times. Also valle managed to throw u on your wakeup by baiting the crouch tech, he did this a few times. Valle has mastered throwing and his game centres around it. You got awesome ryu tho. Would love to play you sometime even if i got my ass handed to me.

923

BP doesn’t equal skill. You know this.

Advice taken.

You are right, but it’s not because it is Alex Valle, it’s just that I always think people are godlike and they will punish every poke I throw out or anything I do, so with that on my mind, I play more defensively. Thanks for the advice though, I will try to be more aggressive.

924

Was joking man, its Valle. Woulda thought you notice the sarcasm…

The whole “everyone is god” thing is something I do too. sometimes I feel a stale mate because im aware that everything I do is potentially punishable. Thats kinda why im working on the PRI thing in the hado thread… just trying to think in terms of player reactions n mindgames instead of “X move beats Y move” - which sadly is what a lot of the forum seems to be dedicated to.

925

As far as Im concerned, I think people need to ask YOU for advice. Nice playing.

926

I wouldnt argue with that for a moment. Luken is a good Ryu and certainly more than capable of giving solid advice.

927

Thanks for the compliments. Alex Valle was the best Ryu I’ve ever played, aside from John Choi at EVO 2010. I have some more matches of me and Valle, but I don’t have a solid stable internet connection, not for another two weeks at least. After that I will continue to post up match videos.

@DarthPaul
I see your spacing thread, nice work.

928

Great matches, Luken. I learned a lot about footsies just from watching those vids. Also, I love Ryu’s cross-up tatsu, that thing is just too much fun, always nice to see it once in a while.

929

Some of my recent Ryu ranked matches vs Sakura,Akuma,Guy and Ryu:

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I stopped playing my main and secondary for a while and started to spend more time on Ryu from now on.

930

Did you see his matches vs Dhals though?

931

How not to play against a good Adon:

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For the record, I did NOT try to do the diss on arturo. Lies.

932

^ SPELLCATING : F, R, … nah nah… ummm… I dunno what you were trying to do at all then man. Did you have too much respect for him or what? You didnt even throw a single fireball… ?! That would be fair enough if you were willing to face him head-on in mindgames, with reversals n throws n shit but you didnt, you allowed him to have full momentum. I mean zoning is fine, playing mindgames and rushdown is fine, but you did neither. Youre not gonna get advantage that way IMO. But meh, you probs did a lot better than I would have!

933

…Speculating? confused

The only thing I tried to do was to play solid and footsie. Playing him in casuals earlier in the day… No. Loose fireballs were not on the menu.

I was less free in this set than I was during casuals. That is sadly saying something. (I did manage to steal one round during casuals. But that was his first round of the day.)

Also sad, how much I rely on jump-ins for offense. Meh.

934

…aaaand here’s day 2 on the stream:

Adon/Gen:
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I really wish he baited those post-jump dps. I need to stop that shit. But he just kept letting me do it. Ugh.

And against Bison:
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I actually know this matchup reasonably well. But what do I do? Constant midscreen jumps as my only form of offense. And failing to do any kind of anti-air. Cripes.

Yeah. This about shows my current skill level. Like I said, knowledge != skill.

Come and critique my ass off please. I expected to be blown up on the stream much more than I actually was. Disappointed.

935

i saw the Adon / Gen one on the day. That lad didnt impress me too much (no offense to him). You basically DPd the shit out of him… it felt good as a fellow Ryu player watching you hit that many DPs though. I was like “YESH!!! D…P!!!”

gonna critique the other one cause I missed that on the stream (somehow…).

**Round 1 **

Was that whiffed jump just a mistake? Cause I dont see the point in doint an empty jump bait VS a Bison with no metre…?

Does Bisons S.FK beat Ryu’s neutral jump MK at max range?

Youre letting him escape your pressure strings for free. Personally Id try n hold that shit down with throw mix-ups, but I guess thats maybe just a personal choice

Dudes AA was shit. He could beaten several of your jumps (I know theres a range at which its really hard for Bison to beat your jumps but you did several at a range where he could AA)

Round 2

Jab Vs scissors was sick! Do you use that a lot? Cause it beat him clean but ive never tried that.

Dont try n counter his DR youre gonna get F***ED (unless you were going for EX SRK FADC Ultra or something)

Round 3

You FAd when he was charging. You know how unsafe that is. Scissors are safe and will win.

You did EX FB FADC to ultra wrong at the end. He was camping. The ONLY time I hit this is when I intentionally bore the shit out of my opponent. literally Ive sat still for like 30 seconds, eventually they move forward, then you read when theyre getting fed up of waiting n hit it then

OVERALL GAME 1 : Stop jumping. he shoulda AAd the shit out of you. Youre also trying to build pressure when you dont need to. You never use fireballs. Just enter about 2.0 and start chucking FBs. He HAS to do something to get around, you have the advantage for free by doing this. And to an extent, I dont really see what the point in maining Ryu is if you dont use FBs.

GAME 2

Round 1

Im yelling this in my head “HIT SOME F***ING SRKs!!!” I dont believe for 1 second that you cannot react and SRK in time. Step that shit up!

When youre in the corner. SRK. seriously… against the Adon you were willing to SRK the shit out of him. Here this Bison is hitting you with pokjes without thought or respect, punish that shit. I know its a risk but it was like 10 seconds of him unsafely poking you. Personally, I woulda taken the risk, especially as you had bar to cancel it.

ROund 2

WHY WHY WHY are you using EX SRKs? I dont get it and Im thinking I must be missing something cause you know your stuff…?

You have 1 hit till you die. There is only 1 single way you can POSSIBLY win this match. And still you dont fireball.

K… uhhhh… I was harsh at some points during that but thas because YOU KNOW YOUR SHIT SO USE IT!. … seriously. You have to be willing to fireball. Your footsies are quite good, but without FBs youre only using half Ryu’s game. Now, this make me think that you are subject to a fault I used to be subject to. By any chance, when youre playing in a match, are you overly aware of your opponents options? Cause I used to be like that and it made me have 2 styles : 1 rush them down, 2 do nothing. This is why I wanted to get into the odds and stuff and why I started doing the Hado guide in the first place, cause when you think in absolutes you come across one of two problems all the time : 1) You dont know the answer to a problem so you do whatever, 2) You almost know too much and think too much of your opponents options so you do nothing. this is the exact reason for the hado and footsies guides. Theyre to be based on odds and reactions cause that is, as you know, what SF is about, not absolutes.

uhhhhh… wow, epic post LOL.

oh n u still rock, you just need to learn to apply your knowledge. Respect to you, but you still arent as good as you should be knowing the amount you know.

thoughtI was done but im not. You didnt observe spacing AT ALL. Im not gonna tell you where you should be standing Vs Bison, you already know, so use that to your advantage.

NOTE TO SELF : find out how to critique someone who already knows everything and just doesnt use that knowledge…

936

I don’t know everything. Not even close. I just know how things work, mostly. I have a lot of trouble with matchup specifics. So anything along those lines I need drilled into my head.

EX srks were mostly screwups. (Also habit probably.) Which was the case when I wasn’t FADC’ing them as well.

Min is another guy I played a good amount of casuals with. I was able to beat his fei, and another char or two, for some reason. But most of the other chars he played I had trouble with.

Not possible to counter devil’s reverse? I thought it was pretty easy to dp if you see it coming. Not that I tried…

Fireballs… Yeah. I have a problem using them. And when I thought I could surprise him with one, I got ate proper. But my fault for doing it when he had EX.

Thanks for the feedback. Really.

937

Good games,

What I see from your game is you really have to improve your mix up. You were being predictable with
one light attack grab or 3 moves blocstring than c.mk. I would have like to see more frame trap in there.

Like you said you probably rely to much on jump in for your offense.

One other thing I saw a couple of times is you throw out an attack follow by a grab , but grab miss because
the attack did hit confirm. I know its not easy when you plan to grab beforehand. What I do in dojo
to help me cure this problem is let say I want to go for J.hp grab I will focus extra hard on the J.hp and if
it hit confirm the simplest execution wise for me is c.hp xx dp.

Hard part is when you go for j.hp . cmp , grab , if only the c.mp confirm…

The general feeling of your game is youre obviously a very solid Ryu , but I feel youre on auto-pilot to much.

938

Theli: Just want you to know. Im not dissing you. I have mad respect for you. Its just that its frustrating because I know you work hard and that you are not taking advantage of everything you know.

Im wondering whether it might be helpful for you to put the theory aside for a little bit and just have a bit of fun with the game. summmed up my thoughts are thus :

  1. Use Fbs
  2. If you dont already know your ranges then learn them. Spacing is probably the absolute most important part of the game. Work it out and stick to it like glue.
  3. Put the theory aside n just play the game. Dont even play to win. in fact, you might benefit from doing this weird thing I do. Start a new account online and play in ranked only using random select. This might seem dumb but it is, IMO, the very best way of making you think about the game differently and breaking your habits.

Again, respect man.

939

Don’t need to worry about hurting my feelings. This is srk. (Sparta!) And these are the first vids I’ve posted of my play. I kinda treat the ryu forum like my own personal game mechanics discussion board. Wanna go beyond that. So I needed a reality check. My personal strats and habits are poor. Hoping to fix that.

940

adon match was alright.

gen:

  • don’t jump air to air against gen, he has more priority (very annoying), wait for his jump and mp srk that sht or st.rh that sht :p. I mean, they like their weird jumping arc so they will try to jump often, learn the correct spacing and punish.

  • don’t be so riscky with jumping, especially when he’s doing his dive kicks, just block them and punish with cr.jab cr.fierce xx w.e you want.

  • you can safe jump gen, so when you get a knockdown, safe jump him.

  • you can punish his blocked cr.lk. (the one that juggles you). dont’ use cr.lk.

  • you didn’t hit confirm anything after 2 jabs, what the hell.

  • i think you are jumping too much, gen has decent anti airs.

  • why ex srk? mp is decent enough.

  • thick throws set ups are important, i mean…ume srk fadc ultra.

  • overall use more hadokens

  • I think you should be more organized in what you are going to do in the match. everything feels so reckless to be honest.

vs Min

  • jump pattern, Min owned you because of it.

i recomend you watch this fight. yes, Daigo derp derp durr durr hurr hurr w.e…

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this is dictaor vs ryu in slow motion. that’s my advice, slow down your gameplay.

as you can see, daigo creates throw patterns for ex tatsu and for ume srk.

low forward hadoken

he uses hadokens, its a very important tool ya know :stuck_out_tongue:

I have longer hair than you and…yeah mine are better :stuck_out_tongue: