personally or not. viper you can u can bait out so much shit and capitalize on her mistakes which will result in big damage. that match up was always 5-5. Specially when you control her air game, shes fucked, and doesn’t have many options at all. thunder knuckle links that are missed you can be DP then easily. her seismos you can throw her out of thos if u want to because of the slow start up, and her ex sesimo. you can dp that. but not throw.
Wow…terrible arguement. You apparently didn’t understand when I said that some matches…he has down to a T. Where as other matches, he still gets dusted. I’m not saying that he doesn’t know ANYTHING about the matchup…it’s fucking daigo, of course he understands every matchup. However there are some matchups where he’s yet to figure out how to WIN at a constant rate…
Look at how he played Uryo…neutral jump mp’s ALL fucking day. Now, could that be the way to play the match? Maybe…it’s a great tool. However, seeing as this was Daigo’s ONLY real line of defense to Uryo’s viper, it can say a lot. Compared to how he rapes Sagat’s face all over.
The point being that Daigo knows the matchup I’m sure, however he hasn’t figured out quite how to win in certain matches…Didn’t Maeda Taison show quite well?
TERRIBLE arguement, and I shouldn’t have even had the respect to even post. It’s like you missed the entire point.
Had to repost…I lol’ed at this one…Guess there was to much dumb in this thread as well…unsubscribed.
oh yeah, everyone fear the amazing headbutt / block mindgames
As did you.
Off current off topic…
Momochi vs Daigo @ NSB Exhibition :
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In the 3rd match, comeback is ridiculous!
Tks for the post!
Good mirrors.
Added one vid.
Regarding Daigo’s match vs Dictator:
His jump in HP’s were also option select DP to beat out wake up EX options from Dic.
Dic EX wake up, get’s DP’ed.
Dic blocks, might get tick thrown or eat a EX Tatsu attempting to tech.
IMO, that shit is genius.
youre calling me dumb?.. lol… Rog doesnt have options on wake-up… like… he can headbutt with really slow start-up or use a dash with slow start-up… wow… im scared of doing anything when he’s down…
on another note Mickey, no one actually cares if you unsubscribe or not. I mean, you have ego, thats well known, but its not like youve ever actually won anything, and you failed miserably at evo, so yeah… maybe you should learn to not totally blow at 4 before you talk shit, ay?
btw; im not saying Im great, im just saying youre not either.
DarthPaul u betta back that shit up
why? Mickey insulted me, I responded in kind. Seems perfectly fair to me. And before he insulted me, he insulted Digital and Kuma… Mickey’s usually cool, so I dont really know what the issues are about. Either way, there’ no reason he should be acting so egotistical and saying ‘this is too dumb for me to read.’ MICKEY: if something is wrong, why not point out how its wrong without being ofensive?
In regards to what to do to Rog, keep him full screen or at cross up distance and look for when charges are broken. Thats pretty much the key. When he gets knocked down, jab fireball and dash in as close as possible. When he corners you and is next to you, Air tatsu out of there. Simple. A great Rog player will look for this, but 99% of them won’t.
darthpaul is very correct about Rog. Hell, a correctly timed c.lp can beat wakeup jab or throw or anything, but recover before the headbutt hits. He can do almost nothing against crossup. It’s no secret, rog players have been getting used to his crappy wakeup.
he can do ex punch to absorb one hit or back dash orF back dash to avoid option selet.
boxer have oneof the best back dash of the game with chun li.
ex punch as wake up is quiet good. it lose to emoty safe jump thow or ex tatsu but still usefull.
and back dash is quiet good too as he goes very far .
and ifyou want toescpe corner with air tatsu, ymake sure before thatboxer not sharging, because he can punish with ultra. at least if he is not charging youmight just get punish with a sweep
i don’t have much xp against rog so i get beaten very easily, here are my final winners bracket game against kliquey
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don’t mind about me using gief, i need advises on my ryu on how to deal against rog. everytime i face one i’m totally feel uncomfortable
More fireballs. You were just waiting for him to rush you down. Need to do something to gain momentum. Rog’s got some ways to get through them, but they’re not great. EX fireball will beat the EX rush punches and if he TAPs you can usually dp him. Pressure him harder on knockdown, too. Meaty overheads and c.lks to start a hit confirm. With the right timing, they’ll beat wakeup headbutt. I’m by no means an expert in this matchup, but was having the same problem with Rog as you until I started pressuring him a lot more.
Yeah, all due respect but it did look like you havent played good Rogs cause you didnt approach the match right. There are really 2 options against Rog IMO, you either have to FB the hell out of him and know your spacing reall well, or you have to just try and counter his dashes. To do this, you need to be able to recognise which dash hes using really quickly. The way I do this is via sound. There are 3 basic sounds Rog makes in his dashed an they all relate to the sound effect that is like wind blowing (you know what I mean). The dashes that hit low have a high pitched sound, and for these you can neutral jump into combo. The moves that go straight have a lower pitch sound and you can FA all of them or c.mk into combo (look to hit a tatsu after the c.mk for space). Finally, he has the EX moves. These are easily recognised by SWOOSH sound and the yellow EX effect. For these, I generally use a c.mk into SRK.
You also missed a lot of SRKs against jump-ins. You cant afford to miss those against a good Rog. I got the impression you were trying to predict and you should really be reacting. I actually play against the CPU on hardest with 0 health to practice my SRKs - I know people hate playing the coputer, but I find it really good for this one thing.
ALso, you should look to have more of a mix-up on games. Despite what certain people will say, Rog doesnt have a single option that can beat a jump-in option select SRK, so use that and you know youre 100% safe, then just mix-up as much as possible.
I saw you use a blind c.fk at one point too, and I really dont advise this - its -14 on block and loses to Rog’s sweep anyway.
Finally, remember that you can FA through Rog’s sweep and combo into whatever you want. Not only does this get you good damage, but it also makes thr Rog afraid of sticking the c.fk out there.
hope that helps a bit!
you can t Fa her flame kick, if viper make it the good way she will land in your back and fuck you.
st jab for flaming kick, thanks for the info, but i m not sure about spaming jab(she can make so many angle with flaming kick,…) plus good viper player do flaming kick in reaction to hado to punich.
Personnaly I think viper is a dificult match up, sur low health help ryu, but her capacity to make huge domage is frightening.
personnaly , i m ok with mickey, I think daigo havent this match up really clear, In fact I think more that viper just have to many option so there is no universal answer.
adding the fact that with 1 ex she have free ultra on ryu without needing any corner and that a combo do like 550 domage…
mid distamse, no hado because of flaming jkick in reaction,
long distance no hado and be carefull will her explosion that do good cheap domage and make a lot of ex.
foot step she have her standing double kick that beat cr mk and she have a good cr mk to her electric punch…
good part is wake up game, safe jump option shoryu will beat everything clearly so she have to guard
may be just like dalshim, it s all about being able of taking advantage of momentum and make huge domage.
I played fax and I think blanka is a 5/5 .
it sure that if you have 10% life remaining in front of a blanka with ex it s no more 5/5 more like 7/3 for blanka, but if you take advantage, and have a super that the same for him… difficult to attack except that event with 25% life he will already be in bad situation