The Ameяican Government Thread

That’s an oversimplification of what Trump said and blatantly false.

1.He wants to increase tariffs on foreign goods manufactured overseas and shipped to United States (like your Iphone), in order to increase the incentive for American companies to bring back manufacturing in the US.
2. What US products are sold overseas? In order for a product to be considered a US product it has to be made in the US.
3. “FIne US companies” is too vague of a statement to even give a rebuttal to.

One thing is for certain.

If the next four years actually happen, in a manner that is record-able by humanity… they will be an interesting four years.

If only in retrospect.

The problem is I think people don’t understand how much worse things can get just staying the way they are. Just under Obama the US debt has doubled, from 10 trillion to 20 trillion. If Hillary just follows what Obama did and our debt doubles again we’re facing default and if that happens that would be catastrophic to America. Look no further than Venezuela to see how a country looks when it defaults on its debt.

First, ben shapiro is a very very intelligent guy, and i wouldnt take his words too lightly.

  1. Thats not going to work. You think a 45 percent tariff on china is going to bring jobs back? No, its going to raise the price on those iphones of yours, cause general trade disruption, and anger chinese politicians and businessmen. Those jobs are gone. Stop wanting them back.

  2. Well to china specifically, its…
    [list]
    [] soybeans
    [
    ] aircraft
    [] cotton
    [
    ] copper materials
    [] passenger vehicles (small engine)
    [
    ] aluminum materials
    [] large engines
    [
    ] electronic circuits
    [] corn
    [
    ] coal
    [/list]

Other shit in general
[list]
[] machines, engines, pumps
[
] electronic equipment
[] aircraft, spacecratf
[
] vehicles
[] oil
[
] medical and technical equipment
[] plastics
[
] gems, metals
[] pharma
[
] organic chemicals
[/list]

  1. Okay…

Trump has zero sensible plan to bring jobs back to america. He knows this, and its why he sent his clothing to also be made oversees. That which his supporters overlook, or dont care because he said if he could do it again, he’d like to keep the jobs here. lol

Have fun tariffing the fuck out of countries that we trade with. See how those high tariffs work out for you. lol.

The US debt also doubled under bush, from 5 trillion to 10. Its been a failure of congress and president on both ends. I doubt trump has any clue how to resolve that sensibly, and you have to also understand that if trump becomes president, he will likely be a 1 term president, which there are few of, and george bush sr was the last one.

Not trying to pass the buck on the debt issue, but if your faith is in trump the idiot, and congress to resolve that under his “reign”, well um…

The coal industry is already DOA, and it sure as fuck wasn’t the democrats that did it. It was natural gas.

“Ten years ago, coal produced 50 percent of the nation’s power supply, while gas accounted for just 19 percent. Now, both fuel about 33 percent, according federal energy data.”

So, yeah. Blame Hillary. Anyone who says “we’re gonna bring X jobs back” is straight up fucking lying, but people are crazy gullible.

Obama has presided over the biggest % drop-off in yearly federal defecit since eisenhower.

Defecit spending is back below 2007 levels.

A Gary Johnson interview for those interested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My80OdePeSA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K7PWn8d5bY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umlLMPIvEFg

I see reporters from NBC, PBS, etc. keep mentioning the real possibility of a third party candidacy. Are those in power moving the gears to make something happen?

I know, but deficit and debt are not remotely the same thing. Regardless of that, the debt has still doubled, and it is what it is. My point was that, blaming hillary as someone to potentially double it again, while also blaming obama, and thinking trump will fix it, is nothing short of delusional.

https://youtu.be/wAeB_yl2E90

ouch, bruv.

The only way trump can bring jobs back is through tarrifs and subsidies to offset costs. There is no way Americans will pay more than 10+ % on all goods so that it can say made in America. Killing Nafta would be a good start, but that will make cars and other machinery skyrocket in price, especially because of federal mandates on efficiency and safety.

That is true, although the US can technically do whatever it wants because it can print more money. We are the reserve and with more and more nations being tied to the dollar via trade deals, it ensures we can continue being stupid until we are forcebly removed as the world

HIs entire argument was based on “he’s so racist”. Didn’t provide proof and told them to go google shit, but when the kid said something he demanded sources. On some Raz0r level of fucking troll right there.

sighs Another face off between the parties with no actual exchange of ideas or progression, just bitter arguing.

I think Johnson/Weld will appear on the national stage and play a significant role in determining the outcome of the election, even if they don’t win. Both parties are becoming increasingly authoritarian, and the Libertarian movement is a backlash to this.

Who is going to force us to pay? Lol. That’s not how debt works for a government.

All studies and real world examples show that if you’re in a recession or depression, go into debt to save your ass. It’s not surprising since it’s a capitalistic country and in order to have a healthy economy the population must spend.

He received shit tons of personal attacks and death threats. Someone even posted his workplace address and videos of him working there.

https://i.imgur.com/2ejKGS0.jpg

He even made the news for the amount of shit he got.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLOEmHmEIwA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Az5FCe6yc

@MechWarrior

A progressive gay Muslim spoke out against Islamophobia after Orlando shooting. Witness how fast his opinion changed as he got bombarded with death threats from other Muslims every 3 seconds that went on for days

At the start, complete apologist



Still trying to think both sides are just as bad

Faith in his community fading

GONE


After just 2 days of Muslim death threats, he sang a completely different tune

The condescending tone that Trump supporters have is just as bad as the superficial rhetoric liberals spew.

The faith already picked. More than half of all Muslims have deemed homosexuality illegal, and what, about a quarter (?) will kill you for it?

Will need to go back to the Orlando thread to double check my numbers.

` please remind me how is this the religion of peace?

YOu can’t claim that it’s a peaceful religion when the only thing that makes this cancer tolerable is the fact that white people in the US wouldn’t stand for the fuckery these assholes are pushing in Europe, and they have a secular government that wouldn’t hesitate to make it rain on them. When you look at the mass of Islam, its a fucking cancer, and its obviuos that its needs a strong man to keep it in check