The Ameяican Government Thread

General Discussion
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What exact Clarence Thomas scandal are you referring to? Is it the political retreat that he was on that supposedly influenced his citizens united decision? I actually agree with the citizens united decision because the effects of the reverse would have been disastrous. I thought we were talking about Hilary Clinton? I hate that politicians in general use their names to illegally launder money to their organizations. The criticism remains the same regardless of whether or not they agree with me politically. Besides, this woman is actually running for president.

Hilary Clinton is running for president

So ignoring the repeated requests by Chris because he didn’t feel safe is not wrong? Lying about his requests to the families face and calling the wife a liar is not wrong?

Again, how? Especially after Rice and MORE ESPECIALLY after Powell, who practically lied to the U.N. during his tenure.

I’ve always hated this about Hillary (hot sauce lol) but that’s a lot of politicians who want to appear of the people. They don colloquial language, mannerisms, and styles to try and fit in. Nothing new.

Not saying she caused Benghazi, but her supreme neglect during the attacks are absent when she speaks about it

I know you hate breitbart and i can’t stand their pro-trump position as well, but the emails are sourced. Read them, read public statements on the issue and her words to Egyptians, timeline it, and draw your own conclusions. The bitch lied.

I agree. I think an example should be made out of Clinton

This is an attack on her hypocrisy and the hypocrisy of the political class. They themselves are not barred from their second amendmant rights and have access to lots of security personnel, no matter how many illegal things they do, but the average citizen is guilty until proven innocent despite the constitution philosophically being completely against that. The FBI fails to do its job, but law abiding citizens not named Hilary get to keep their guns? Get out of here. And to think that people on both the left and the right wouldn’t use a no due process list against their political opponents to take away their natural born rights is naive.

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You know my position on minimum wage, you know her position on minimum wage.

Her supporting policy that would destroy the coal industry, then lying about it.

Her equal pay position (clear pandering as well) would border on orwellian because there are already 2 laws on the books that prevent this. The next step is tyranny.

Her taxing of the 1% is also hilarious for college and maternity leave. Its philosophically immoral, because unless the money was literally stolen through government subsidy or theft the money is not owed to people. Maternity leave is something businesses have to decide for themselves because the situation is different for every small business. I’m not even sure if the 1% have enough money to support these moronic programs in the first place. We are 19 trillion in debt so putting these programs in now is a priority? really Hillary? A single economic slip up and everything goes to shit.

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I’m not on a PC anymore so I can’t respond to every point but here’s a link to the Thomas story I was referring to:

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/06/22/meme-alleges-clarence-thomass-wife-got-15m-from-healthcare-act-foes

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State Department: Hillary Clinton Failed to Turn Over Key Work-Related Email

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CLINTON_EMAIL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-06-23-17-19-35

When is the FBI and Justice going to act? Are we or are we not a nation of laws?

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Adding and expanding on some of Negative-Zero’s points:

-A Russian company wanted to buy %25 of US uranium reserves. Hillary pulled the strings to get it approved and that same company later donated 55 million to the Clinton foundation.

-6 billion dollars from the state department went missing while Hillary was secretary of state; which means she was directly responsible. The official word was the money was “misplaced”. Misplaced?! You misplace your car keys, you don’t misplace 6 billion dollars, that’s 6 thousand, million.

-She deleted 33,000 emails which was technically illegal and property of the US government through the Freedom of Information Act. Basically any government officials records are public property. She deleted them and has yet to divulge what they were about.

-She’s accepted 25 million dollars from Saudia Arabia and regularly accepts bribes from other countries in the Middle East. Bear in mind Saudia Arabia is a country that still practices Sharia Law and owns slaves. Two things that directly goes against the values of America which is her job to uphold if she becomes the next POTUS.

-Vince Foster in the middle of the Whitewater scandal was going to turn over states evidence for immunity. A couple days later he wound up dead from two shots(!) to the head and it was deemed a suicide. Hillary subsequently confiscated his files and destroyed all of them.

-Just recently the head of the UN mysteriously wound up dead not long before agreeing to turn over evidence that could possibly indicate Hillary. There’s actually a trail of bodies accumulated over two decades that lead to the Clinton’s.

And just listen to the way she talks, there is zero empathy, and zero sincerity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvhBoF_pCHo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBdqxMUQByU

It’s all a joke to her; a game. It’s like watching M.Bison run for president. She’s worst than Bison actually, because at least Bison believes what he’s saying and is at least up front about it. She’ll literally do or say anything to get what she wants.

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I still believe Trump would be way worse what with world leaders not liking him and him having absolutely zero experience in politics.

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Look

this logic is what makes me believe that the lizard jew conspiracy has merit. First England, and now this.

lets not vote for this guy becuase “world leaders” don’t like him and wont do what “they” want him to do.

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I want someone in the White House who knows how diplomacy works, not someone who is going to TRY and bully others, domestic and otherwise, into doing what he wants.

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I feel like this argument is super circular. This election cycle boils down to either vote for evil or stupidity. I choose evil, because evil is what gets things done in the world of humans whether we would like to think that we are above spitting in the face of ethics to get what we want.

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Hillary does that all the time.

#2016 really a shit year

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I said this earlier, lol.

Hillary is the greater yet lesser evil.

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damn, i wonder what the the plea bargain entails-

oh

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/07/nyregion/john-ashe-top-united-nations-official-is-accused-in-bribery-scheme

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Holy shit, Trump literally reusing Obama’s attack ads on Hillary

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Teleprompter Skill Level: Presidential

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Bruh, it makes that kerry vs bush, vote for the lesser of two evils meme back then look like light work. Now you literally have two big piles of shit who could be the president. Literally the two worst case scenarios for the democrats, and the republicans. With the democratic nominee being horrible, but expected at least. Republicans got their shit pushed in out of left field by trump.

If the republicans are the pitcher in a baseball game. Trump is the guy who jumps over the barrier from the stands, runs across the field, and two finger blast the pitcher (republicans) in the asshole. No one sees that coming. haha

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So, can we finally put this Benghazinonsense to rest?

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You know, this is probably a shitty, self destructive position to take, but if Trump gets in there and completely fucks everything up, not only is it possible he could be impeached, but maybe the people voting for him would see the consequences and hopefully learn from it.

I see $hillary as basically being more of what we’ve already had, she’s the dictionary definition of “Establishment.” At the very least, maybe things need to get worse before they get better and it seems like people of all stripes are finally waking up and seeing that the status quo needs to be smashed.

So I say, put Trump in. Let him destroy whatever it is so we can rebuild. Again, it’s a risky and probably temporarily self destructive thing but it could be better in the long run.

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Yeah, i really dont want trump in the office, but for months ive been saying, maybe its better he does get in there, so all of his faithful followers can realize the truth. He can only do but so much damage anyways. Its literally impossible for him to belly flop the country, but what he can do is awaken tens of millions of idiotic americans to how easy they are duped into believing in false political prophets.

I wouldnt even flinch if he became president. I’d smile, as i watch it all crumble around him over the coming years. When people realize he cant do almost all of what he said he would do, and theyre still broke, with no unskilled labor jobs coming back to them anytime soon. Youd likely also see a spike in radical terrorism too. Unfortunately.

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if you really think about it, this election is going along the same lines as the brexit argument went.

You want people who are fucking fed up with the system and want change and don’t give a shit what that change may be, because all they want is to at least try something new. And then you have people that are afraid of change and won’t vote for change because they see that change as a threat and danger that can never be recovered from.

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Er…because i didnt mention his known steroid use that he himself eventually admitted to…i stress the word eventually since he didnt admit it while he worked for Bush senior which i’m not happy with… doesnt mean i downplayed it.

and i really dont know if he “cheated” regarding bodybuilding competitions since i do not know the rules regarding those competitions.

but Arnold as far as i know isnt anti-steroid…and guess what, neither am i. matter as fact considering how good many celebs look while in their golden years…i’d say everyone should be on hormone replacement therapy.

lastly, just fyi, i’m on steroids.
i’m on a host of hormones.
since i have hypothyroidism, hypogonadism, and hypoadrenalism.
i have to take tons of anabolics…and uh.
unlike what you said in your comment…
the only thing i’m gaining, while watching tv all day…is fat.

you dont know what you’re talking about.
trust me, as someone taking steroids for years…and who is well versed in endocrinology …you dont know what you’re talking about.