The Ameяican Government Thread

Australian shitposting. Keep it in 4chan if you don’t understand why using funds to promote good behaviors is better than bailing people out. One of the big reasons schools are in the shitter is because of awful parenting, this would help people spend more time with their children when the bonds are still forming which would lead to better things. Also reduces the stress on people to haul ass back to work ASAP.

This is definitely an area where employers should get deep tax credits to provide it. Conservatives are want good strong families but won’t really do anything to legitimately promote. As I said above, promoting good behavior through incentives is significantly better than having to spend way more money to try and correct issues.

The polls are bogus btw… back in early August when they were in a statistical dead heat, Reuters and all the mainstream polls literally shifted their algorithm to sample 15% more Democrats. It’s absolutely ridiculous and shameful.

I’m not a Trump supporter, but watching how the mainstream media covers for Hillary is comedy at this point.

Vote Jill Stein. Or Trump. Anyone but Hillary. Whether or not the bitch is dying is irrelevant, youtube: Clinton Cash, google the Clinton Body Count, she is the most corrupt mob boss sell out cunt on earth, it’s absolutely sickening and disgusting that she’s even a candidate, she should be rotting behind bars.

Maternity leave wont solve anything when we have an entire generations daycared, I am fortunate enough to make a good living mostly at home. Kids need a parent at home end of story.

Conservatives opposed women in the work place, I don’t go that far but were going to have to stop demonizing stay at home dads as dead beats and women are the primary perpetrator of that trait.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve almost cold cocked a bitch for asking me why my kids mother wasn’t handling an issue (doctors, teachers, etc.) and they are more likely to spit on you than men are.

Conservatives are already had a model for good strong families, Mother nature/biology endorsed. Women stayed home with the kids, liberals fucked that up and now they want men to subsidize a correction.

No thanks.

Republicans/conservatives are just as much in favor of big government when it’s paying for shit they like, i.e. military, surveillance, war on drugs, war on terror, etc.

What we REALLY need to start doing in this country is actually ENFORCING labor laws. So many social ills would be fixed if we actually started doing that. But we live in America, the land of $$>>>>All so…

What’s wrong with employers actually taking care of the people who allow them to reap the profits they earn? Maybe tell a lot of these employers to lower their prices so the people who buy their products can afford to get by with only one income. Cuz that’ll happen. :wink:

When government mandates I take care of someone that’s called serfdom.

Do you think I want to take my kids to the park or spend my saturday doing paperwork about you. People hire someone to do work they don’t want to do anymore and to lighten their load, not be given a responsibility.

Your mentality is what created slavery, someone that needs a nanny.

I could hire somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 right now, more than enough work I turn down. I simply don’t want to do the paperwork, have the obligation etc.

I just would like to interject with some truth if I may. This election is not about Liberal Vs. Conservative. It’s about a corrupt, fascist, war mongering, totalitarian insane criminal kingpin who is dying, a batshit corrupt if I may coin that media that is blatantly biased for the democrats, no matter how disgustingly horrid their candidate is, vs. a good hearted billionaire who is famous for firing people in a time where basically we need to fire every person in government who the president can fire.

I’m liberal to the bone and I’m voting Stein, but I have come to learn that it takes both. This is a democratic republic. You need free market and you need minimum wage, you need to absolutely uphold the constitution no if ands or buts but you can also add to it “scary” social programs that help people, without of course turning it into a pure socialistic society since those are nightmares that don’t work.

Once you figure this out you will gain your sanity, everything will become crystal clear and you’ll see right through the lies and straight to the Truth in everything.

Just thought I’d throw that out there.

/rant

If you think you’re going to further the country in the direction of liberal ideals by voting Clinton you’re a nice little subverted zombie just as Hillary wants you to be.

If you’re “With Her” You’re with Fascism, you’re with lies and corruption, you’re with restricting the 1st and 2nd amendments, you’re voting for a war monger who wants to pick fights with Russia despite the fact there is zero evidence Russia has done a goddamned thing, you’re voting for a person who murders people who get in her way, you’re voting for the most anti-liberal, lying thieving wanna-be dictator disgusting cunt whore deploarable rot in hell death incarnate Hillary Clinton.

Hitlery is merely posing as and taking advantage of people with liberal/democratic ideals. She is a filthy bitch who should be rotting behind bars instead of rotting in front of our eyes, and the fact she’s not is yet another symptom of how insanely corrupt this system has gotten thanks to fraud Obama, who I voted for twice not that romney or what’s his face would have been any better.

Jill Stein is the only candidate that actually stands for anything remotely liberal. Jill Stein is the democratic liberal choice. Hillary is the totalitarian fascist candidate.

Trump isn’t very conservative either. He’s the definition of moderate. Which is a good thing. And he generally seems to care about people and the country. I also think that it’s providence that a man famous for firing people is a front runner for president in a time when we need to fire basically everyone. I hope he wins just so this insane subversive media shits itself and those who demonized him and those brainwashed against him chill the fuck out. Anyways.

Trump may be just what the doctor ordered, Trump is a Populist, so was Bernie Sanders.

It’s called the cost of doing business. If you don’t want to do paperwork, hire someone else to do it (C’mon, be a JOB CREATOR) or don’t start your own business, or start a business that doesn’t require any employees but you. So do you also think someone should be SOL if they get hurt on the job and can’t work too? What happens to those people? You don’t want to have to pay for them, but what if they’re unable to work, their employer doesn’t want to pay for it, and there’s no public assistance for them? Then what? Do we just take them out behind a barn and shoot them?

When companies realize that keeping jobs in the West instead of outsourced to China, to slaves, that they will lose in the short term due to the higher wages, but actually make it back in droves because they’re creating a customer base of people who can actually afford the products.

Though the main problem we have right now is instiutionalized greed. Companies are, by law, forced to grow, not just make a profit, they have to grow no matter what to appease gambling shareholders. It’s instituionalized greed, It’s called Fascism, and it goes against both of your ideals, it’s completely against the conservative and liberal ideals you both share and what made this country great at one time.

6 companies own the entire mainstream media. They influence everything. They want to grow and grow and have people like you fighting against each other and voting for their candidate, Fascist Hillary whose job is to make them bigger, and end anyone who is a threat to them, that includes alternative media (see Hillaries “alt right” speech) that includes Russia who is anti-globalism (see her insane Russia war mongering) that includes the banks (see Goldman Sach’s) and that includes her foreign donors (see the film Clinton Cash, free on Youtube).

Trump is extremely moderate, he’s not out to get people like us, he’s out to help us. It’s really that simple. This election is not about pushing the country in a liberal or conservative direction, we have a moderate who is both vs a corrupt globalist witch.

That or I can just say fuck off liberals and not hire people, I didn’t put a bid on a 300K account last month simply because I didn’t want to hire and have to do Obama care paperwork.

And we already have disability insurance. I make more than comfortable living, I have one employee whose entire job is fetch me starbucks/take out drive since I hate it and run schematics to fedex.

And since I don’t want to do paperwork for scummy low life socialists I am not going to hire people, I am going to cheat my taxes, vote against every single social safety net I can and monkey wrench everything I can out of sheer spite towards people like you who sit there and decide what my costs or obligations should be.

If my employee was a woman, I’d fire her and hire a man just so I don’t have to worry about maternity leave.

Obamacare sucks, the regulations are out of control, it’s horrible, Obama has has been at the very least the most disappointing president in history, at worst he’s doing it on purpose.

The problem is globalism. It used to be that 1 person could support an entire family and live an awesome middle class life, and rich assholes like you who employed them could be rich assholes. Everyone was happy.

Then one day some rich assholes got together and said they want to become richer assholes, and figured out that they could save and thus make short term gains in the millions by outsourcing jobs to Chinese slaves, not looking at the bigger picture that by doing so they destroyed the middle class customers who purchased their products in the first place.

So they had to make more cuts, the quality went down the drain to make the products cheeper so the now poorer Americans could afford them.

But because making billions isn’t good enough they have to grow and grow and grow, they made more cuts and cut even more employees, more outsourcing now it’s so bad that the government has to step in and create socialist programs based on taxes to support the now poorer and poorer American households.

Oh and by the way, in 1913 other rich assholes this time in banking decided to rip off America by creating an unconstitutional central banking scheme that strips the currency of its value over time, known as the Un-Federal Non-Reserve fractional reserve system, endless inflation and it’s taken 100 years but now our currency is worth about pennies on the dollar.

So on top of everything else we have a country drowning in never ending debt because The Un-Federal non-reserve lends money it doesn’t have to our government with interest.

All because rich and powerful assholes can’t see the bigger picture. Do you see the bigger picture? Are you starting to see the bigger picture now?

@ParryAll US money is very strong right now. Am I missing something?

In just our lifetime the purchasing power of the dollar has lost half it’s value. 200$ in the 90’s is the equivalent to 400$ today. We all lose under this system.

The reason the dollar doesn’t collapse is because we force it on the world. We make it the reserve currency of the world.

Things to Youtube: Federal Reserve, Jekyl Island, Petro Dollar. If you only research one of these, research the one in bold.

I am hardly super rich, I just have simple tastes and value self sufficiency. I run a small hobby farm and a machine shop, I make money because I have a degree in mechanical/electrical engineering.

I’d stop working entirely and just farm if I didn’t have to keep producing to pay taxes on my assets, I don’t get to because the liberals with their hands out will fill those hands with guns if I don’t keep money in it every year.

The sad thing is that, even when Trump says something ridiculous or flat out wrong, the American people lap it up because it’s the first taste of a genuine human being running for office we’ve had in a long time. If the DNC replaces Clinton, they absolutely cannot put Kaine in the hot seat, as his lack of personality is a huge hit when running against someone like Trump. Biden and Sanders are their best bets right now if they plan to defeat Trump.

Thank you ParryAll for your uneducated, unmitigated garbage.

Pretty much everything you’ve said has already been refuted and debunked by a multitude of factcheckers.

I gotcha, I was just using you as an example “rich a-hole” lol just to illustrate my bigger picture post, my over arching points, I had no idea what your situation was but that’s very cool, very interesting deal you got.

All he said was he thought this election was National populism vs Globalism and gave a loose run down on the history of the Federal reserve which is spot on the money.

Trump supports auditing it by the way, ideology aside you can always spot who’s bought by who supports that audit by the way.

Trump - Audit the Fed
Jill Stein - Audit the Fed
Ron Paul - Audit the Fed
Bernie Sanders - Audit the Fed
Jesse Ventura - Audit the Fed
Ralph Nader - Audit the Fed
Chuck Baldwin - Audit the Fed
Cynthia McKinney - Audit the Fed

Hillary Clinton…

Spoiler

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I’d single issue vote for anyone on that issue alone.

I don’t understand what you’re complaining about then. You have one employee, it’s a dude, you don’t even have to worry about any of this.

I know from your posts that your opinion of women is probably just a rung above the average islamist wacko over in the middle east so I’m taking what you’re saying with a grain of salt, but are you insinuating that if a woman with a job wants to have a baby that she should have to quit the job or decide not to have a baby? You know what you end up with when that happens? Japan. Negative birth rates. Less worker bees for the corporations. You’d be shooting your kind in the foot if companies didn’t have to pay for maternity leave. Hell, you’d probably have to get your own starbucks and fill out your own paperwork, you lazy bastard. :lol:

Ad hominem fallacy. We happen to actually have Government-paid maternity leave here, and we damn well shouldn’t. It is an incentive for irresponsible parents to have children on the taxpayer’s dime.

No it won’t. You end up with (mostly) women taking time off under their employer’s maternity leave, which is fine; then taking Government maternity leave, THEN taking unpaid leave after that, sometimes being away from their job for two years. In that time, the business needs to either backfill for that extended leave, or determine if said mother actually wants to come back. Many times, they don’t.

Stop giving single parents more welfare. Stop giving people incentives to have children when they’re not prepared. FORCE parents to be responsible, and don’t reward them with welfare for bad behaviour.

Fix the culture first. People only see Government as a cash source and a reason to milk them.