Wait, just had a thought…
“crouch strong and crouch forward (medium kick) can combo from hit confirm”
Does this mean I can hit confirm after it lands, or can I hit confirm into it?? If it means you jab/light kick hit confirm and then go into meduim kick its kinda meh. Would still add a decent option other then trying to link into crouching HP which gets me DP’ed fairly often, but not nearly as awesome as using it as a hit confirm itself.
Getthefruits: Sakura has one of the best (but also most difficult) blockstring option selects to catch backdashes in c.lp os mp sho/hp sho. She can option select to catch ex psycho crusher by doing xup j.mk os mp sho or j.whatever os u2.
Not having a shoryu doesn’t mean you can’t option select effectively, spend some time in training mode to figure it out yourself.
Scarling: c.mk x hp sho is already confirmable since vanilla, don’t know what you’re talking about?
they might have made it so that you can combo from c.mk to s.mp. The frame traps and block strings will be beautiful.
Yes i know that every character can OS a special attack between block strings to catch backdashers ( Not only sakura ) .
That’s why people started blocking more, FA backdash instead of raw backdash and delaying crouch techs, i mean people REALLY started delaying it so much that i couldn’t even frame trap them.
Thanks for pointing out the OS against bison, i didn’t know about it.
But sakura can’t catch other safe reversals like honda’s EX headbutt and some others i couldn’t think of.
I will sure try to test out more option selects and yeah i thought about using U2 but i didn’t have time to test out.
In Super she can’t… in AE that might be another story… theirs a couple of trends coming out from these changes…
Why on earth should c.mk be + enough on hit to combo into st.mp?
Meanie!
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GetheFruit: Sakura has option-selects against Honda EX-Headbutt, it’s just not to catch it as it flies away. She can option-select EX shouken or U1. U1 is more risky because if he butt flops you eat a fat combo. But if they are EX headbutting 100% of the time, you’ll be able to hit them with at least one option-select U1 before they start working in butt flops.
Could there still be a chance for Sakura to get game-breaking nerfs though? I really hope not.
I don’t know, I was only trying to connect her other changes, and I’m trying to figure out what
? Crouching Medium Punch and Kick can combo from a hit confirm.
means, and I’d love to hear your interpretation of it, since like you said, she already hit-confirm into c.mk and c.mp. I can only assume that someone got the relationship backwards. Maybe they mean that c.mp -> c.mk is now possible? That would be a nice change.
EDIT: reading your other posts, and reading Az’s original post, you believe it’s cs.mp -> c.mp/mk right? It’s worded a little confusingly in az’s post so I asked for clarification
As far as I understood from the post it’s cl.mp that links into c.mp/c.mk that’s being changed.
Any idea what the notation for these option selects are? I really wanna start using them.
@ 0renzokuken0 : There should be an option select thread in the Sak forums.
The required timing between landing the kick and hitting the Shouken after is freakin tiny. the combo window seems to be definetly smaller then the hit stun. If its so easy how come none of us are hit confirming it on a regular basis? I didn’t see you doing it eaither. I’ll see m.k into sho but its always in a “I know its going to land” situation.
I can’t do it, and i never see other guys do it. The only hit confirming I see from sakura players is the light kick/jab hit confirm into crouching hp to extatsu.
I sat in training mode for a decent amount of time with the dummy on random block and the timing was just too strict for me to handle.
If you can help me figure out how to do it you would be my hero.
Please prove me wrong. I would LOVE to be wrong. I want to hit confirm it really badly.
I’ll spend some more time in training mode with the random block dummy to see if i can get it. And i’d really like to see some people useing it next thursday! Such awesomeness this would be, should be her BnB poke tactic so lets start seeing it used!
It’s literally already being used. It’s doable as it is right now, and of course nobody is going to land a shouken cancel 100% of the time they land a c.mk. But during footsies and such, it’s easily hit confirmable into a HP shouken. Dunno why you’re all of a sudden saying we have to prove anything, because we absolutely have to do no such thing. Myself and other players are already doing it, we have nothing to prove to you sir.
Why so aggressive? Was I personally attacking you? Notice when I say to please prove me wrong, its not in the “I bet you can’t” sort of fashion. Its a plea for help. I never said anyone had to prove it, I pleaded with people to prove me wrong in order to help me.
Maybe not the best choice of words on my part, but I still think its pretty clear that it’s a cry for help and not trying to call people a liar or whatever you think I was trying to do.
There is no need for you to be asshole about this. I expressed why I couldn’t do it, and that its not something thats seen being done on a regular basis, and then I asked for HELP, I never attacked anyone, and don’t deserve to be attacked for asking for help.
My apologies then. Just sounded like you were trying to call people out. If you’re looking for help on that, it’s really down to practicing it. You have to be buffering Shouken everytime, and then make the decision on whether or not it was blocked or hit based on whether or not you see the blue or the gold hit animation, then hit the punch button accordingly.
There’s not much more to it than that.
I want to apologize as well, my response to you could have been better, and my orginal post could have been worded better as well. I have a hard time trying to not get confrontational on forums at times. I blame my mother!
I can see now how you could have got the impression I was calling people out. My bad, I apologize.
What you mention about the gold and blue hit animation instrests me. I’ve only looked at the player model itself, noticing the change of the model seems a lot slower then just looking at the special effects. I’ll give that a try. This is exactly the kind of advice i’m looking for, thanks man!
c.mk x hp sho is confirmable, I do it all the time when I have to.
I mean, most players can’t punish me for doing os sho and don’t force me to walk in on them with c.mk.
So as long as I don’t have to then there’s no reason for me to use that type of c.mk x hp sho confirm.
And that’s not because the confirm is difficult, because it’s not, it’s because to get the chance for that type of confirm in footsies you need to be walking in on your opponent, which for a short while leaves you open for them to hit a button. Either that or you can do a blockstring with a slight delay on the c.mk to try and bait them into pressing a button, at that point you also want to use an hitconfirm.
I can’t do it either, I only go for c.mk xx hp sho in situations where I’ll whiff if the opponent doesn’t stick a limb out.