Tentative Tekken 5.1 changes

What’s the general opinion on Old Bryan? It seems that when people mention the top tier and how annoyed they are with them, Bryan is usually excluded. IMO Bryan was tolerable(only the b+1 fix was necessary… if necessary at all). How often did b+1 out-prioritize? Did b+1 have any crush properties? I play with Bryan so this could just be bias. It was always Nina and Steve that annoyed me, Bryan was tolerable.

well yah bryans probably not too gay if you already play him

:rolleyes:

The only people who thought Nina was good was us. Korea thinks shes like mid tier.

People who might be the best now, Devil Jin-wavedash, and king, and Raven.

I wonder if they are adding new shit, like characters or backgrounds? Probably justing adjusting characters so they can copy and paste the data for their next Tekken Tag Tournament game.

Why can’t they nerf Jinpachi? I know all of you would love it if Namco nerfed him.

Back to topic: With no more Steve, Nina, and Bryan dominance, the Mishimas will reign supreme again (it seems like they aren’t getting as nerfed as the other characters), and Lei will STILL suck. BTW, wasn’t Devil Jin dominating in Korea, despite the fact that we thought he was mid tier? I guess this patch will give them more reason to dominate with him.

Misconception. Korea did think think she was top tier, they just dont like playing her. Korea just thinks she is a boring character. They again also play on different settings then everyone else/

I play Steve too.

What settings are these?

Yet they play Roger Jr, the pinnacle of BORED.

fag

filler

I sense bitterness.

MASSIVE bitterness.

They set there lifebar all the way up instead of 100 percent I believe its 140. That extra life matters alot.

jae: actually it’s +2, i.e. 120%

b+1 was tight until this shit came out

what to use now !! :sad:

Yeah you’re right, long range, +3 on block, what a shitty move. How will you ever cope?

bryan will still be top 5, sure no more b1 but unbreakable ch ws3!?wtf!

bronson.

I dunno, ws3 setups are pretty weak in general. You’d have to randomly do it(unlike the 80% of Bryan users that I’ve seen/played that religously do it after db3 like it’s a canned combo or something) in order to get the full mileage.

Then again, it was hard enough to break on reaction and NOT eat the fb2 afterwards…

I don’t see the big deal if you’re whining. Bryan’s b+1 is still pretty good. I don’t get where people say it’s slow. It looks like it comes outta nowhere to me sometimes. If you want a whiff punisher (or just a puinisher period) that fuckin’ bad… use f,f+2 from long range and f,b+2 (which REALLY comes out of nowhere) up close… problem solved.

Steve is still good. Half of his movelist is safe. I know it sucks that you don’t have his main juggle starter… but his ground game is still boss. And you can still juggle with u/f+2 (which is kinda like a hop kick, though slightly slower) and it tech jumps (is that right term?) He can still kill whiffs and maintain pressure.

Nina is still good. Her ground game is just as good as Steve’s with safe stuff all over. And unlike Korea we have to put up with the damage/life settings as they are. She still has safe launchers and some great lows.

This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:

I don’t like getting beat, but I’d rather get beat by a wave-dashing DJ than a guy who just picked up Steve two days ago.

If you know me, you also know that I absolutely do not like Roger Jr. I actually do think he’s boring. Shockingly in fact.

Rah! Who gets beat by 2 day old Steves? :smiley:

It’s fun when you know it’s coming, you see it a mile away, you do 1,2 with Lee, watch as BOTH YOUR FISTS GO RIGHT THROUGH HIS SHOULDER, and then eat b+1 XX Jab To Wall XX DEATH.