TEKKEN 6 Bloodline Rebellion Thread - PS3/XBOX 360 Oct. 27, PSP Nov. 3

Come play emphy’s mokujin. :smiley:

Good is relative.

What would me coming down to New Orleans to play Shishioh, even prove? He’s either going to beat me, or I would him, or it even up. Chances are the former most definitely, cause I’m learning dat tekken.

That doesn’t take anything away from what I said though.

Good is relative.

Zeon, see below:

I’ll play you in kof98, 2k2 or 2000 on GGPO, whichever you want.

Honestly, kof characters are a lot more basic than BlazBlue or Tekken characters, so it’s not a compelling argument to mention someone being able to play many characters in kof at a good level.

The majority of the players that attempt to main so many characters (in many games to boot) are generally pretty bad, clinging to some exploits with each character that their opponents are too low level to know how to get around them.

When this game comes out, I’m going to try out about 4 characters but in the end I will only use 1 or 2. I’m thinking Alisa or Zafina.

I tend to only stick to about 3. And out of those 3, I stick to miguel and jack the most.

Lili and Zafina all day as soon as it hits at the end of October :bgrin:

As I told the other dude, GGPO does not like my computer that much. I’ll get into a match then the screen will stay black, or I won’t even be able to log in sometimes. So I gave up on that. (that and you’d only play me on 98 if I got the damn thing to work, I don’t like 2000 and I just don’t play 2002)

Slide - I see your point sort of.

Change of subject.

I’m wondering would there be ANY chance that Namco could put a tag mode in this thing. A part of my brain is saying no because the combos would be retardly long or just scaled down immensely.

Miguel/Jack-6/Lars/King

^Fuck that nigga named lars.

*I have never had much trouble picking my main character. If my main is not my first choice the first time I play, it is my second choice. One of the biggest problems I have found in playing just one character (maybe two) is it is so easy to become obsessed with a technique unique to that character. Finding yourself losing when opponents shut that technique down. Struggling to be the sharpest yet most flexible player is not easy with one character. Playing multiple characters and playing one character have thier merits and drawbacks.

I’m hopeful that Zafina will suit me and I can say I have secondary I like to play in Tekken.*

This is severely off topic, but Mystic…what the HELL does bleeeeeeeet mean?

I always play king, and maybe 1 more character for run. I’ll only mess around with the rest of the cast on console just to get a feel for how the play.

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I guess you can call me a Tekken addict.

Tekken in the only fighter where I can seriously play with everyone. Not KOF. Not SF/Vs. Series. Fuck MK/DOA. And VF 1 only lolz.

I started with Tekken 1 back in `98, so that’s what, 11+ years of tinkering with everyone?

TTT reinvigorated my need to play all the characters, although at least one character had to be a Mishima or Chang :rofl:

Eventually, I wanted to venture past the old axiom (…) of beating Arcade Mode with all the characters in order to unlock shit by actually learning the characters I had to chore through.

The combination of the different personalities represented, the wtfness of moves I kept getting hit with by either the CPU or other humans that I personally wanted to use on others, and the easy accessibility of Tekken’s system - especially from T3 on - only strengthened the cause.

Never study, or studied, frame data. I guess if you can play with all the characters truthfully, you wouldn’t necessarily need it. I look at it, but I can feel Tekken, as in, I can innately know what moves are punishable, safe, fast/slow, range, etc. Too much fucking math, jesus.

I do however, study high-level matches and combo vids, as well as the special movements (BDC, WD, SSC, etc). The notations, which are unbelievably basic yet extensive, are the best in any fighter IMO. Those are the what I study the most paper-wise, all the while acknowledging, at least, the tier lists over time…fuck T4 Jin… It all comes down to testing moves and timing, thinking of ways to utilize them into your own playstyle.

Truthfully, I have been creamed when I use the lower tiers but that’s mainly because I always have this insatiable urge to do unsafe moves to finish the match ASAP rather than poke my way to victory, which can be a tad boring depending on who you used (i.e. Ganryu). But it really helps. It’s a good mindgame to at least master 10+ characters so that you don’t become entirely predicatable with just your 1’s and 2’s (and 3’s). If nothing else, maining the entire cast means I will never be bored with Tekken, past or present.

Since Tekken 6 has 40 characters - 41 if you include Nancy from Campaign Mode and 42 with h4x3d Azazel drunk online mirror money matches - I have no excuse to not play as everyone once again. THEY GOT TWO RANDOM SELECT BOXES FORTY A REASON? :mad:

Practice Mode, and Catlord’s movelists - the latter which had hidden moves - helped me memorize the movelists. Granted, I can’t remember all of the link throws from Nina/Anna/Kings/Bruce but I knew those weren’t that good for eons, I just studied their breaks. The Practice Modes in T3, TTT and DR were essential in getting me better, highlighting my mistakes.

With Mokujin/Tetsujin, I understood sacrifice from a different world. Some characters he gets a buff (mainly females and Kuma) while others you have to work twice as hard thanks to HUGE nerfs. But I don’t care. Looking at these past tournaments at Evo/SBO etc., tier list be damned. An Eddy beat Jack-5 in DR last year, Evo. Mishima not named Lars near the top in SBO this year. Lili, Asuka, Lei, and Christie representing the top four @ the recent LUYG. Law > Paul’s aliens. You get the drift. The player makes the character, not the other way around.

I’m personally agitated of Namco changing the notations for certain moves: AK’s old b2 (d2), Marduk’s b4 (god knows what now bb4?), Bryan’s 1+2 (d+1+2 DR, db+1+2 BR fuck you!!1), Yoshimitsu’s ff3,1 (df3,1), OMFG Steve’s punch parry is now b+1+2 and manual FLK stance is b+3+4, Nina 5.0 no more, et al but I guess that’s their way of making a sequel “fresh”. Change certain moves from the non-Mishimas…change hellsweep’s notation then…I fondly remember the RAGE! some people had when they got rid of Heihachi’s d1,2 in T4 AND nerfed it up the diaper-ass lol.

But anyway, yeah I had tons of time and I will have tons of time with Tekken. I can’t master other fighting games for shit, so that’s where my time has been. Since moving to Cali, I do have the comp to level up, it’s just up to me to go for the kill at all costs. Even if it feels cheap…

SC is a mess when it comes to that stuff…

I might be in NOLA this weekend, you got anything going on?

Lain, I’m not even gonna be here. This is my last week in NOLA. I’ma be in Lafayette at my college man. I move in on friday. There maybe a chance I’ll be there on Saturday. But thats an if, and if I am, I’ll send you a Pm.

Only thing that sucks about playing a bunch of characters is if you take a long break from the game, it’s tough to remember everything when you come back. With one character it’s easy to remember pretty much everything. Execution may be off but that doesn’t take long to get back.

I don’t think there’s a right or wrong though. If you get good at every character, you’ll know match ups very well. If you stick to one character, you’ll be able to push that character to the limits. It’s a trade off.

Ima jus stick to miguel for now. Seriously, I feel like im getting better but playing other characters hurts my game.

tekken is too deep there are so many situations 10 000 games wouldn’t be enough to have them all explored.
There are so many timings to master.

You’ll definately have a better level when training with only a few characters in my opinion :stuck_out_tongue:

You can try there but it doesn’t look active ^^
The DRO thread

It also takes up alot of time, that could’ve been best used making your one character stronger, or doing something totally different that doesn’t involve actually playing the game.

You’ll only know matchups as far as using that character for that small amount of time, and that starter level. You still don’t have experience with how you and your own character could handle the matchup hands on(because you’re not even fighting it), you’re just finding out what that character you’re using, has available.

If most players stuck to one char, then you’d learn matchups from playing different players because you’d know them to have a good grasp on their own char. However, if everyone is switching around, then everyone is playing personally watered down versions of everyone they’re using, and you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. You’d have very slow progress when you could improve much faster and with less time, otherwise.

Think about it, you play a guy in the game, and his main is Kazuya, your main is Paul for example, you and him both have 0 exp vs a good Eddy(not a masher). Would you rather learn how to battle Eddy from someone who mains him, or someone who uses him as their 5th or 10th character and just fucks around? Don’t get the wrong idea though, if there’s absolutely no Chreddy’s available, you gotta do what you gotta do, it’s better than nothing.

Everybody switching so many characters around constantly, can stunt the growth of everyone playing, and it’s time consuming, imo. Switching around only works now, because that’s what everyone else does.

Personally, when T6BR comes out for console, I might end up being very busy with going back to school, and getting used to relocating to a brand new state and coast, aswell as any other random things that will be on my plate by my choice. So I’m going to stick with one character, and just play Tekken as my only fighter. Sticking to one character in a fighter, and playing one fighter exclusively, is for the players that are trying to actually live life, at the sametime make reasonable progress in this game.

If you begin to get obsessed with a technique, then it’s time to take a break from the game and do something else entirely, you’re playing the game too much. It’s overload man, it’s overload.

You can actually take a small break from the game for a few days, a week, etc. and come back stronger than before because your mind is fresh, and it gave you time to drop bad habits, and soak up all the knowledge you gained.

It’s just like when you work out in the gym, you need rest days too. Resting when exercising, is just as important.