What are some of Steve’s “bad” match ups, and moves he should really be looking out for from common characters, and how to stop those moves?
Steve’s bad matchups? Nina does well against him and…uhm…I guess that’s it. It’s Steve for Christ’s sake.
That’s why i put “bad” in quotes, cause I mean, yeah, it’s Steve. But he doesnt win em all, right? I just wanted to know the stuff that can get him down.
So for Nina, i gotta be on the look out for the df+1, 2 mix ups, and the devastating oki off of the uf+1. That’s all i really know.
So what are Steve’s options after a blocked df+1, 2?
cool, you talk to NiN. Id give you a cookie but I dont live in NY and you dont live in CA. seriously tho, what was the point of your post? thats coo you heard what you heard and all. but is it supposed to prove that there are no Nina players in Korea? lets set this shit straight once and for all. in Korea there are countless gamers. half of which who dont go on forums or care to be known. there are literally thousands of arcades. I have friends spread out all over Seoul (I was born and raised there). I asked them if nina was used much because she is top tier in the US and they all said there is atleast 1 nina player at their local arcades. from TTT experience in the homeland, pretty much every character is used and pretty well I might add. maybe not as much as the more common characters, but there are enough players who use the low tier characters for you to run into if you ever went down there yourself. some of you guys keep mistaking the gaming community down there to the one we have in the states. in the states if you are good enough to place in tournaments or just good enough to gain buzz the forums will do its job of letting everyone know who you are and what your name is. in korea its not like that. there are the most popular players that most people know about and then there are the ones that are just as good but never show up to any events or simply dont care. too many players to keep up with in Korea.
SLA special #1?! w00t:clap:
is the panda in this game?
Yes, highlight Kuma at the select screen and press a Kick button.
You see Spankys avy, thats usually what happens to Panda/Kuma.
5 did a good job of balancing the game out compared to 4. you can pretty much run with anybody except kuma and lei. imo, the tier list is…
-top-
steve, bryan, nina, hei
-mid-
feng, wang, paul, kaz, ling, julia, jack, law, raven, baek, christie, roger, hwoarang, jin, devil jin, marduk, asuka, ganryu, bruce, king, lee, yoshi, anna
-low-
lei, kuma
Somebody give me some run of the mill feng combos, i’m having trouble doing anything over 50 with him, one over thing how large is the tekken life bar as far as damage points go i’m guessing around 130 or something if somebody has an exact answer thanks.
Oh one other things 3 knees with raven is it worth the bother? in terms of damage it dont seem to great from all the experimentations it’s just seems all show OR a means to get them into the walls am i missing something?
hate on the panda, huh? you’ll see…
whys that anyway? considering i’m not a tekken player at all, someone break it down for me. is it slow speed? lack of good moves? huge size?
big, no range, no oki, doesnt do damage, no good wall stuff…
Ouch! That does 70 damage. Is that what people have been using as his bread and butter juggle? People are telling me that all these new Devil Jin moves are useless compared to Tag Jin (no point using them), but if this combo is going to get me that much damage everytime, then forget all that multiple electric, fancy dashing 1+4 nonsense.
Kazuya:
EWGF, UF, n+4, (land), b+2, 4, 1 (65 damage)
Unless it’s after that ridiculous CH df+2 one frame link, Korean guy always does some other juggle with EWGF, EWGF, some dashing jab craziness though. All I know is df+1, 2 doesn’t do the most damage, but it slams the guy to the ground so he can’t tech roll. I see people ending juggles with all sorts of crazy things like extremely low to the ground EWGF (looks the coolest IMO), f+2 karate punch (or is it df+1, f+1+2?), the Tsunami kicks, and just frame (?) Hell Sweep~Hook punch though.
This is kind of what I hate about Tekken. People list so many different juggles to do that you don’t even know what’s useful and what’s crap. Some of those clueless people telling people to finish juggles with 1,1,2 or df+2 because it “spins the guy around and looks cool” are starting to get on my nerves too. I don’t even know anything about Tekken myself, but damn, if I were a mod on TZ.com I’d be deleting stupid posts left and right already. The argument in the sticky Asuka thread, where some guy calls the mod a scrub and the mod gets really pissed and comes back calling the guy an asshole and all sort of other swear words was the best. Nice and proffesional. 
kcxj, TZ forums are shit, theyre almost worse than SRK for finding info. But I guess that’s what happens when a game is more popular than mvc2 ever was, the noise/scrub ratio goes up big time.
iono about that…
iono man, seems like everyone and their mother is playing t5, i mean mvc2 was popular here, but t5 is popular worldwide.\
My new Devil Jin BnB is 2x EWGF, ff+3,1~ff ,df+44. Its so easy and it does 71 Damage so that ownzors your the other juggle :encore:
Kazuya’s dash jab combos are easy. Even I can do 2x EWGF, dash jab x3, dEWGF. Koreans just love to take them to the wall rather than rely on straight juggle damage. Thats why all the steves seem to do launch, jab x n, until they can get wall splat, FLK 11112
whoops forgot about world wide.
I based what I said on how I saw arcades. 2000-2001 MvC2 was ALWAYS packed at any arcade (malls, mini golf places, arcades themselves). Long ass lines, I doubt as long as back in SF2 days, but still long.
T5 got a buzz in arcades, but weren’t nearly as many people waiting to play as there was MvC2.
I dont know, but Im assuming it was this way across the states.
But factor in worldwide, you got me beat
Wow. It IS a tight combo. Did you make it up, yourself?!
Fag.
I found the bread and butter Kazuya juggles I wanted.
-ws+1,2, 3,1, df+1,2
-EWGF, EWGF, f+1, df+1,2
Those are better than any ender with cd+4,1 or the b+2,4,1 chain.
If I want to push the guy to the corner I can do…
-ws+1,2 f,f+1,2, f,f+1,2 DEWGF (hits really low to the ground)
-EWGF, the UF, n+4 scrub juggle
Time to learn some wall cheese now. In this game, the “corner” is seriously a corner. As in 3D, walls on both sides of you while the guy’s punching your face. Too evil.
What are the Korean Kaz players doing as their EWGF setups in those vids? Is it Mist Step, EWGF or regular side step, EWGF? I can’t tell by sight alone. Does it matter? I know EWGF (blocked), DEWGF beats a lot of stuff also.