is it just me, or did this post make absolutely no sense at all? tekken did not attract players cuz of graphics, vf games have always been a few steps ahead of tekken in the graphics department and it never caught on here in the US.
I wouldn’t call VF4 popular in S.Korea, when the game is so hard to find in arcade. Japan is the only country, where VF series are popular and played seriously.
Tutorial mode for VF4 was needed, because no one saw Virtua Fighter series as a serious fighter.
VF4 got lots of praise from newcomers and game magazines, because of the tutorial mode and players AI. If those features were not added, than it wouldn’t had any impact.
Virtua Fighter has, and has always had, better graphics than Tekken. Characters, stages, movement, everything. But Tekken puts big bright flashes on hit or block to cover up its crappy collision, and people think that makes it superior to VF. :lame:
Tekken is a fun game, but VF is a thousand times better. I’ve had this argument too many times to bother again, however. But I will say anyone who claims Virtua Fighter has “too much” depth to learn is fooling themselves.
Fanboy VS Fanboy
It gets nowhere… :lame:
Says the man who plays Yun… 
I own both VF4:E and T5, and I honestly think T5 is the better game. Better graphics, more fun, more fun with 2 players, and loads of extras. VF jsut isn’t fun. If I paly a game, I wanna have fun, not be driven to learn half of a 300 move list. Especialy when one move is f+1 and the next is f+f+1 and so on. And block buttons are not cool. SC2 is crap to boot. It’s fun untill you finish weapon master mode, then it’s crap. 2p would be fun if certain chars didn’t just dominate. SC2 is broken to the nth degree… Tekken is just fun. Yes I play at a high level, but sometimes I want to jsut bullshit around and use less than my full potential with a char I don’t know. And I can figure stuff out. But with VF unless you invest 100 hours in practice mode picking up a new char is hard as all hell. And Vf ahs actualy ripped mroe off tekken than tekken off VF… teken did walls first, vf stole the char design for Goh from Jin and that other dude from steve. And VF doesn’t look as good. Any moron who says VF4:E looks as good as T5 or better is on some serious crack. Even in it’s soft video mode T5 looks better. And T5 chars have more polys and textures are higher res…
want proof okay…
VF4:Evo
T5
And yes the blurriness is from Gamespot.
The games aren’t that blurry. But VF4:e has numerous textures that are dead center in the game view that are like very low res, they look like they are from like doom 2…
Damn, I love this thread. Fanboys arguing is always good for a nice laugh.
josh X:
im not gonna go deep into this stupid what game is better bs. but you saying vf stole from tekken just makes your whole post invalidated. vf3 had walls genius, hmm which came out before…hmm lets see…tekken 4. you dont know what your are talking about. lets see what else, hmm tekken stole the data card idea from vf4. yeah vf really steals from tekken. namco even gives sega a shout out in the t5 credits for the card system lol. oh and look now, tekken has now incorporated more realistic throw escapes. hmm, i wonder where that style came from, oh WAIT! I remember now, VF series! and namco did a half ass job on that feature considering only SOME throws have the new throw escapes, most are still just the regular throw techs we are used to in tekken. and goh stolen from t4 jin design? why cuz of the hood? fighting styles are completely different. so everyone that has a hood is automatically copying off jin. okay so lets further that argument, paul is a ripoff of ken from sf. a red Gi outfit with sleeves torn off, and blonde hair, and hes cocky just like ken. hmm lets see, wow law, hes original too, hes nothing like bruce lee (insert major sarcasm here). do i really need to go on? i know vf series lacks some good character designs, but dont act like tekken is original and inspiring, cuz namco is just as guilty.
And how do you know t5 has more polygons than vf4? you count em all yourself? more uneducated opinions from you. and lets see, the vf4 engine is almost 4 years old now, tekken 5 is 6 months. for a game being so new, the graphics are pretty much just on par with a 4 year old game. both games have a different graphical approach. you sound like the flashy type that likes cool hit effects and such.
vf4 has much better lighting effects, more realistic motion capturing that has more real look to it. t5 has more exaggerated movements, while still done well, they slow the attacks down a lot. environments in t5, yeah they look better, some stages, but once again, namco drops the ball with background interaction that looks cheesy. like the coins on the pirate stages, the coins just dissappear! what about wall and ground damage? looks good but it just dissappears. look at vf4, ground damage that stays, look at the snow, trails drag and dont dissappear, plus snow/frost effects start to appear on the characters. and the characters have more solid textures. you fail to see the little details.
i love tekken as much as the next person, but people are dissing vf4 in an uneducated manner. but i expect that from most people on this board since its all biased, close minded opinions
SaBrE… let it go…
tekken 5 on the console is missing the replay save like what tekken 4 had.
enuf said.
I love Evo, but let’s be honest: Sega’s 3d models kinda suck. People complained Goh and Brad looked too much like Tekken characters 'cause Sega actually made them look good, lol. All the older characters have really weird joints and shit.
Anywho, both Evo and T5 have great extras. I’d give Evo the edge 'cause I prefer shit I find relevent and you just can’t beat the outstanding training modes AND boatload of vids that feature ACTUAL TOP PLAYERS!!! Still, T5’s practice mode is quite good (defense training is awesome) if a little lacking in some areas (why no side-roll option for the dummy? Why do you need to use both controller ports to take advantage of command capture?). No replay save is dissapointing as well; it was in T4, why not T5? T1-3 and Starblade are a nice touch, as are all the extra movies and trailers. Just a great overall package.
“Tekken 5 is Not That Good”
Fucking heard.
Wow. Music to my fucking ears.
Damn, I thought I was the only one that thought the character designs in both games were booty.
-Kimo
i luv tekken 5
So after playing it for awhile, its grown on me. Hopefully the thread creator is the same as me. If not… well, no biggie. Still have a few small nitpicks, but they’re not really related to the gameplay so they’re not important.
Jinpachi is a dickhead.
And I said before that Devil Within sucks, but my hate has grown tremendously since. Namco should just not make things like this.
billions of t5 copyes sold = enuff money for Namco to make SoulCalibur3 = me happy. :tup:
walls in 3d fighters?
dudes, there were walls before VF3, didn’t Fighters Megamix come out for Saturn before that?
I can see why some people don’t like T5, it can feel more of the same for a lot of people.
but let’s face it, it’s a good game, and there is nothing else that’s really new at the moment. So if you like T5, good, more power to you. if not go back and play what you were playing before.
as for VF4: Evo, my situation sucks, cause I really enjoy the game, but there is no one to play with, well, one guy, but lately, it’s been too much T5 
I’m a huge tekken fan, and i felt that tekken 5 was a big step backwards, tekken 4 was by far my favourite. I liked the fact that the stages were different shapes, and had different obstacles. It made it more exciting to know the benefits of each stage, and how to work that into your game. In Tekken 5 not only did they that that out, they also took out the fact that characters are now always level, in T4, you could be higher or lower than your opponent, which also added to the offence of defence of your game… All and all, if T5 had those aspects of T4 it would been a much better game.
T5 > VF4 because:
in T5 you can play as a panda.
Okay, I win this thread, you can close it now