most tekken fans agree that t4 was a major let down but nobody is saying that about t5. Namco redeemed themselves and outdid vf4.
Just a little dig for the vf fans out there.
tekken ps2 sales > Vf ps2 sales by a long way
heh, you never saw vf in the top 10 faqs pages over at gamefaqs
Oh and vf updates are patches? funny, because I remember sega charging premium price for VFE in the uk, patches are meant to be free.
wasfemto is a doa fan, enough said really. I’d respect a vf fanboi more if he didn’t like that masturbatory game
Playing nothing but VF4E has gotten to me, so I need a break
But yes, the whole ‘Tekken is better than VF’ and vice versa needs to stop. It’s all objective.
Tekken has a more established fanbase, so of course sales will be greater than vf.
I didn’t say vf was a patch, but sega decided to update it enough to warrant a revision rather than a whole “new” game. Do you think ppl would’ve been happy w/the way xx is now? how bout the first #r version? Sammy done it twice to fix things.
If theres a big deal w/sega releasing vf4 x2, then there must be a problem if other companies regardless of genre doing the same thing. Sc2 had a few revisions as did 3s.
lol and namco hasnt patched their games in the arcade? and sega patching their games just shows they want to make their products flawless. which they do a very good job at. and they add new shit. while namco adds nothing new to their patches, just fixing problems, which is still fine.
i love tekken myself, but you are being very biased. just because tekken sells more than vf4 on console means dick. vf4 still sold extremely well. IIRC, to become platinum hits, you have to sell 1mil copies, and regular vf4 did that. and why bring in a top 10 faq at gamefaqs as a valid argument. any real player knows that is the most absolute trash place to go for fighting games.
Your arguments are based on whats more popular, whether its scrub players or not. obviously scrubby players and casual players are gonna flock to tekken before vf. its obviously why. you can get results much faster in tekken, you cant do that in vf. tekken is also much much easier to learn.
also vf4 is only not popular in the US. Its been the top fighter in japan for god knows how long, no contest, even more popular than tekken. and in korea, yes tekken is #1 there, but vf4 is extremely popular there too.
Just because vf isnt popular here, doesnt mean vf = trash. stop being biased and closed minded. most games have had revisions. even your precious tekken. yes even your godly namco makes mistakes, and fortunately, cares about their product, so they patch it. just like how the others like to do
T5 is good maybe better then tag its really balanced. Of course there are tiers but its not like t4 and only Lei and Kuma flat out suck. Still you can win some games with them but who wants to try that hard when you got 28 other characters that all have a decent shot.Im still real suprised at the variety of characters in tournaments and even if there are 5 korean steves in a tourny usually only NIN and MDJ make it to top 10 with him.
Tekken 5 is a solid entry into the series - but I still have trouble taking it seriously because it’s so n00b friendly. Granted, you’re not going to see a beginner beat a highly skilled Tekken player, but it isn’t uncommon to see an intermediate player get beat by a nub. There was a special on Gamespot where Gerstman beat the old T3 champ and the commentator was like, “yeah, that’s what’s great about Tekken - you never know what’ll happen!”. Personally, I think that’s a bad thing.
Overall, it’s a lot of fun - but it’s just not really my thing personally.
This guy was supposedly a world champion in Tekken 3, which should mean something. But whatever, it doesn’t change the fact that Tekken isn’t a little too nub-friendly for my tastes.
Never played it in an arcade, but I got it last night… and I feel the exact same way. It just feels weird to me. I like the stuff they gave to Kazuya and Bryan, but I didn’t really get the excitement out of it like I thought I would. And the presentation sucks. For some reason, the last few games I’ve bought (which are all sequels) have all taken a step down presentation wise.
But playing Tekken 1-3 = awesome. Damn, I can’t believe T3 looked that crappy, but back in the day those graphics were on point.
VF4 is a game in it’s own and I hope Final Tuned comes over to the PS2. VF$ does have better customizations and their Quest mode is better then T5’s arcade mode. But to be honest in a sense T% is like MVC2 it’s meant to have two players. And Sabre your right T5 and VF4 are good games in there own and i see them as Capcom and SNk back in the days.
Tekken is gonna be the only comp for VF in the 3d era. Unless ppl wanna add the DOA series to that :tdown:
t5 is what the world is playing man. Everybody is good at the game, I don’t think it’s that lopsided when it comes to comparing one country’s skill to another (though I think koreans come out on top anyways no doubt). It’s not like Marvel where only the US plays it hardcore.
in my opinion just my opinon no harm its all good but i never seen a big deal about tekken 5.although i never play tekken but looking at the series of watching people play it all i saw was in t5 was (((graphics))) and mainer tweaks to the movements and new moves thats it.plus if someone gets a perfect know big deal like in any other game.
newb frendly is like the secret name for tekken and i know alot of people knows it.why i say this.
since when you see
1.DDR players that plays nothing but DDR no fighing games of what so ever
2.initial d that plays initial d all day
3.newbs that comes to the arcade and make 360’s and mash buttons shacking the machine,u know the newbs that think akuma is god tier of marvel
4.myself neverplay tekken and not even tried to sit down and learn anything about it.at all.
now i seen good tekken players in alot of arcades the look at combovideos of tekken,study it play tekken since that tekken tag.
and lose i mean while trying to keep there streak lose to numbers 1 alot,2 alot,3 consently, and 4 just by doing basic and a little stragety like kicks and punches and grabbing, no 10 hits no combos no nothing plus i even heard tekken players say that number 3 above r the hardest to beat with chrites,chrishy dont no the name the jamacian girl on t5and raven.newb freindly indeed.i hardly never see anyone thats good in marvel,cvs2,or 3,soul calibur,GGXX, and such with tekken issues with newbies with a streak
i dont think t5 really needs that much of a tutorial mode like vf4. vf4’s engine depth is insane and is neccessary, i dont think t5 has that many complex mechanics in the engine that a player wouldnt be able to find out on his own. i think the only real depth in the game engine is button buffering, crush moves, and learning how to do instant ws moves. i think everyone can figure out high/mid/low moves and combos and teching throws
