Tech Talk Shoot'em Up (Pro)Gear - arcade parts for bullet dodging

Hey guys just letting you know some decent shmups half off this week for Xbox live gold members Dec 13th-20th I believe

-Bangai-O HD - 400 Microsoft Points - 50% off
-Guwange - 400 Microsoft Points - 50% off
-Hard Corps: Uprising - 600 Microsoft Points - 50% off
-Radiant Silvergun - 600 Microsoft Points - 50% off

Lulz. Figures. I finally pulled the trigger on XBLA Guwange over Thanksgiving, so of course it goes on sale.

[EDIT]
Ah, only if you’re Gold, which I’m not.

Another thread resurrect.

Just placed an order for an LS-58-01. Once I’ve run it through a few titles, I’ll post my thoughts on it.

Cool, I be waiting to hear how the LS-58 works out for you.

So far the LS-56-01 works out great for me in my Sega Virtual Stick (HSS-0136)

I bought an LS-56 recently. With an 8-way restrictor, this is the best Seimitsu stick for shmups. Screw the LS-32, never going back to that POS again. At least not a stock one.

I’m with you on being better than an LS-32. Not sure I agree on the octogate though, but again, all this stuff is totally subjective.

Real quick, emphatic: any idea if a stock Suzo will mount in a TE?

Sorry, I meant to add an IMHO to that “* *this is the best Seimitsu stick for shmups” statement.

I think it is possible to mount it in a TE, but not sure if you need to cut parts of it away. A Swedish guy did it by screwing a Seimitsu SS plate to the SUZO (from the top). This put the “lip” of the SUZO’s shaft surrounding right under the metal of the TE. IIRC, he had to saw some of the base’s plastic away so it wouldn’t snag the TE’s PCB or something like that.

If you try it, please take lots of pictures. :slight_smile:

Will do. :smiley:

I do believe rtding mounted a Suzo in a TE.
Someone correct me if it was a different modder.

Any idea if there was a post documenting it?

Also: LS-58 has arrived. First thoughts: it’s an LS-56 with a lighter spring. Basically making it feel like an LS-40. Which is why I’ve mounted it in my TvC stick I use for Neo Geo games. Pics incoming this weekend.

You guys have any thoughts on the LS-33? I’m really curious and interested in getting one of those because of it’s shorter throws, but it doesn’t leave me much choice on where to buy it.

i have a 33 in a namco stick. it is quite lovely. although the spring is too light for me. i placed a 55 instead and it is now near perfect for me.

I second the LS-33 + 55 spring. Very solid shmup stick. Better than the LS-32.

Yeah and the stock JLF is TERRIBLE!!! Maybe an octo gate and one of those custom made actuators from kowal may help too.

IMO DISCLAIMER
JLF is a joke for shmups, no matter how much you try to mod it to not be.

Just want to add that the “360” mode of Deathsmiles looks utterly fantastic with 720p scanlines. It’s the exception that proves the rule.

Love the LS-56 for shmups, but the spring is too hard and the engage too close for fighters… I’ll be picking up an LS-58 and some others sticks soon, have a Blast City shell / control panel on the way.

Installed in a Tatsunoko vs Capcom MadCatz Fightstick.

Review:
The LS-58 at first glance seems like nothing more than a cosmetic facelift of an LS-56, but with a lighter spring. And while the first part of that statement is true, the second part makes for a surprisingly new experience.

On the LS-56, the amount of deadzone wobble makes the extra heavy spring feel like a barrier you have to push through when making any movements. On the LS-58: this feeling is gone. The lighter spring allows for a smooth transition from deadzone to engage, but without the “mushy” feeling you can sometimes get from sticks like the LS-32. At the same time, it keeps the same incredibly short throw distance of the LS-56. This makes the LS-58 feel amazingly crisp, and worthy of the new model number (plus that translucent dustwasher and shaft look pretty cool as well).

The only negative I’ve found is one that it inherited from the LS-56: after a bit of usage, it starts to squeak at times. Chalk that up to it still using the same pivot mechanism as its sibling. However just like on the LS-56, during normal play I didn’t even notice it.

As far as I’m concerned, this is the best stick Seimitsu has ever made. Forget the LS-32. Forget the LS-40 (which this is almost identical in feel to). And most importantly: forget the LS-56 with its higher tension spring. Seimitsu has a total winner on their hands.

New favorite shmup stick? Yes, and then some. I’d say this is my new favorite stick for every 2D game, save for fighters. But it’s tough to beat the old reliable Sanwa JLF in that regard. Maybe next time, Seimitsu.

Makes me want to pick an LS-38 up.

Thanks for the review, mistahsnart.

ditto. The More You Know.