There’s not a single move in SF with bad priority?
Hmmm . . . yeah, when I first saw the vid on Hawk’s ultra . . . i was like . . .“meh” . . . wassup with the sit on you “How!” shit??
Then I saw the super and I really liked that one too. But it looks like they aren’t going to change that at all . . . cept the range (damn i liked the range so bad). Hope they don’t but if they don’t then it’s just weird . . . cuz Gief should have a better range on his Super and Ultra.
Sooooo, do you guys think people are going to complain about Hawkster??? hahahahaha I’m telling ya, i’m foreseeing the complaints threads popping up in April.
Instead of switching the super and the ultra i’d like to see them fuse the good points of both. It could have the bounce and regrab of the super followed by the sitting finisher of the ultra. That would be so much more satisfying.
I don’t think many will be using Hawk . . . do you see many using giefs??? Nawww . . . I think we’ll see more Juri players than Hawks . . and more Dee Jays than Hawks. But we’ll have to wait and see
I just think the sitting finisher is a bit silly. What they should do is infuse his rising hawk and dive into the ultra . . . like this for example . . .
ultra comes out . . . spins the oppnt and bounces the oppnt up in the air . . . then the rising hawk comes to hit the oppnt . . . which spins him and keep him in the air . . . and while T.Hawk is still in the air he comes right back down with the hawk dive which suspends the oppnt just a lil longer just to have T.Hawk jump right back up to grab the face and spins him back down . . . . :wow:
wouldn’t that be crazy awesome to see tho??? I can imagine that ultra . . . whew!!!
hmm…how bout…
one little two little three little…
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no? Oh god…
Hawk looks dope.
I’ve actually seen quite a few Zangiefs. But I have a feeling that all the “omg top tier” buzz DeeJay has right now will make him really popular. And why not? He’s so well rounded.
Hey, I’d love for Capcom to make a new, improved Ultra, but at the VERY least…I prefer the Super. So while they may be too busy to re-do the Ultra, it sure as hell won’t take long to simply switch the two.
He’s saying “priority” itself doesn’t exist. And he’s right.
well not in a technical sense, but practically there is priority. I mean we don;t say “damn look how many active frames that move has dude!” it’s just semantics.
As if that petition is going to change anything.
Agreed with Magus. Seriously, priority is just a term to simplify discussions.
Oh, and concerning T. Hawk: HALF SCREEN ULTRA! WOO!
Wow, when the fuck did you have this revelation, Einstein? There’s technically no true priority, we’ve all heard this tons of times, but it’s obvious that certain moves have better hit boxes and/or more frames of invincibility then others. There’s nothing wrong with referring to something having better hit boxes and/or more frames of invincibility as having good priority.
the better point is that since “priority” doesn’t exist, no one can tell how much priority a character has after playing for him a day, or however long. if you’d played the game for 5 minutes you’d say tiger knee has more priority than shoto low forward, but shoto low forward can beat tiger knee if you know what you’re doing. since its really a bunch of invisible hitboxes and frame data, its really hard to tell whats going on except “i’m losing/winning/trading”.
marn playing the character and finding all his moves were getting beat is about as useful as the dudes who came to gen from alpha and said he was garbage since he didn’t have his chain combos, or whatever. you actually have to know how to play a character before you can make a blanket statement like that.
semantics semantics. you know what the fuck he means when he says priority. stop acting so retarded.
Bolded for emphasis.
I do think it is a little premature for Marn to make such a statement, but then again, I didn’t play the game. Maybe he was getting stuffed a lot more than what would normally be expected.
You guys are retarded. I said he sucks for a reason. I said he sucks in MY experience of playing him for THREE minutes at most. He’s not a complete character, why is everyone acting like THIS T.Hawk is going to make it to the final version? Me saying he sucks can only make Capcom make him better.
Fei doesn’t even feel like Alpha 3 Fei Long
I kinda think THawk will be high tier.
Here’s my theory: (emphasis on the word theory)
Its seems like in SFIV they tried to make up for Zangief’s past suckiness. They made it a little easier for him to get closer and his damage and stamina make up for the fact that he has to work to get in. He’s now top tier. Much better than the one game where he was shit tier.
THawk, (though I have never played himself myself, only read data) seems to be in the same mold. High stamina, high damage, large sprite.
So I kinda think THawk will be up there with Gief, but maybe not as high.
My prediction of the new tier list (new characters only)
- T Hawk
- Juri
- Dee Jay
Quoted to emphasize Marn posted.
Juri does feel a lot more “complete” than T.Hawk and DJ.