Juri’s taunts are so annoying and lame!!
T.Hawks taunts are lame too!! I might just go with “The birds are crying” or w/e it is he says. Most likely won’t be taunting in game anyways but I do love how they seem to have put more “HOO HAH!” into the taunt animations with the sound effects and everything.
(HOO HAH! was the only thing I could think of to describe it lol)
Did I mention Juri’s taunts are annoying?
Dude T. Hawk is awesome, gotta set up the tick throws in this game, which shouldn’t really be a problem as I’ve been doing that since wed. Play him like you would in HDR and see how easy it is to win.
Yes but, not many people in SFIV play it like HDR. So you’ll find yourself eating mashed shoryu’s and people holding up. Tick throws won’t work then. Then when you respect reversal shoryu, you no longer have the advantage.
Eh, Hawk’s hp is reason enough for me to play guns ablazing and crossing up. The hawk dive is supremely awesome. Ahwell, I just really like destroying people with Hawk and them going “WTF”
I don’t know, man. “Don’t be afraid to cry” sounds awesome to say at a dizzied opponent.
yeah I see that happening too. Do you think we’re still be seeing a lot of shotos?
also Guile has been getting a lot of attention lately.
Guile is awkwardly good. It’s like he has 0 recovery after lp boom.
I think we’ll see a lot of Cody and Ken. Guile for every turtle’s fantasy.
Which, all are probably very bad matches for Hawk. Guile especially.
As for why Cody is bad, I see fake rock throw Ultra 1 against Hawk dive working too much.
Yeah I’m having some fun on the Guile forums xD its to funny how many ppl are there. I swear its a joke!!
Yeah I think T.Hawk will be like mid-low? or mid but I know nothing of tiers when it comes to StreetFighter.
SSBB now that’s my game.
your a Tager main and your be maining T.Hawk. If your going to be on SSF4 often add me to your PSN list. We can try to teach one another (not through mirror games but playing in team matches against others)
also I’ll be recording some of the matches I have a hard time with (and just matches I actually win that I think looks good) so that I can get help with advice from other T.Hawk players who have advice on how to handle certain situations in certain match ups.
Just a “meh” look at my quality for anyone who cares (all 2 of you) [media=youtube]mBRpQvB6m0A[/media]
also I’ll be hosting an online tourney for SSF4(PS3) with a cash prize of $60(via Paypal) come May 7 but this isn’t the place for that chat. I’m just rambling on now 
Ok, I played with T.hawk from 10pm to 5am last night. I’m not sure his matchups are really that bad. He’s a grappler who gets in easily and has a kick that controls half the screen.
Much harder to hit that reversal window on SRK’s now, so that shouldn’t be as much as an issue.
His wakeup game seems kinda weak though from what I saw. EX DP misses half the time, and got stuffed twice last night. So expect people to figure out how to stuff it all the time and be able to jump in without fear.
I have to get going, but I’m going to say real quick that I think it’s too early to be saying Hawk is weak. I was on a team with another hawk player round robin style, and we were smashing teams that imo were much more skilled than us for the most part. I don’t know for sure where he will end up on tier list, but I had a lot of fun playing him. So I’ll be sticking with him.
I’ll probably main Zangief because I want to protect Russian Skies. T.Hawk I’m still on the border about. (Pun intended) He’s good…but man. Those matches are stupid when it gets to Akuma/Juri/Ibuki.
And on May 7th I’ll be doing casuals in a hotel room getting hype for MWC. Sorry bro. No can do.
And as for T.Hawk’s tier listing, I won’t speculate. The matchup chart is going to be askew until a patch or two. T.Hawk has 0 ways to get in on Ibuki.
its all good and although it wasn’t intended it made me lol
Ex dp is incredible for getting out of tough spots and safe jumps. It may not hit them but you can burn the extra bar and ex dive to the otherside.
The crowd I was playing with has all been saying t.hawk will be taking zangiefs tier spot in vanilla. My brother weak sauc3 is saying top 8 easy. I dunno, maybe its just me playing him but t.hawk is a monster right now. Dont sleep on this mexican. Hopefully get some streaming later on tonight
Yeah, people I know are calling him a secret top tier. I think he’s strong, he has tools, he has damage. His mobility helps him out a lot.
Im not sure how deep he is i have only played him for about 5 hours so there might be more too him. But he seems to be a scrub killer. But he also doesnt seem to be that deep. Hes got pretty bad on ground mobilty even when using the spire as a dash and to get through fireballs. Juri is a problem for him because her up fireball takes dive out of the game for hawk. DJ has good punishes for dive. A bunch of people will be able to ultra you on a blocked dive so its pretty unsafe on block. There might be more to him other than mix-ups but he doesnt seem to have the big damage combos to knock down that gief has. I was hoping his DP had a larger horizontal range and the fact you cant FADC out of anything makes him a little flat. Not that hes not a power house but he just kind of seems like a scrub killer.
I really miss short hit confirm ex green hand when i play him. But hes fun and seth wont be a 8-2 match up for him so i will play him for the time being.
s.mk EX Condor Spire, EX Tomahawk EX Dive. 400 damage. Gief combo wha?
I would love to see the stream. Would like to see people more skilled than me playing Hawk and get some ideas. I need to go practice 720’s and 360’s. Never got into gief, so I played Honda instead since I had been told that he was another character who would be similar to Hawk’s playstyle. Sadly because of this I was missing ultras and 360’s constantly. Getting a lot of random DPs and spires out of it though…
T.Hawk and Gief have the same HP. Not sure why people kept saying gief got his HP nerfed to 1050
http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2008/oct/05/stamina-stun-dash-and-jump-rankings-street-fighter-4/
So is Hawk’s second ultra completely useless?
Yes his U2 is in the running for the worst ultra of the game. It is worse than Vegas ultra 1 by a bunch the worse ultra in vanilla. Cant combo to it and its hard to pull off and U1 is really good so dont see many people using U2.
Wow, not true at all. I agree that it’s not fantastic, but still, it’s far from the worst. A lot of characters can’t combo into their Ultras, and they’re still really useful. If they’re jumping toward you, or neutral jumping, it’s an excellent anti air. You can do it extremely late and it’ll still connect. It’s harder to connect against opponents who are jumping away from you though, you have to be a little psychic in that situation. And what do you mean “hard to pull off?” As in it’s hard to do hcb x2? :looney: Please.