man i’m so hype for t. hawk and thanks for saving me money capcom by making an ugly ass alt outfit for him. they were totally lazy. i think it’s supposed to be like fur or something but it looks so flat and the outline of it is completely smooth.
sheeeeet, im buying the alt costumes just for hawks.
cant wait to start slaming people on the floor with Haaaaaaaaaaawk!
Glad i’m not the only one to think that T. Hawks alt looks like Galuda from power stone
Raging Slash for everyone. Feel free to jump up and take one.
raging slash apparently isnt that great of an AA
but nevertheless hawk just may replace gief in super considering he has similarities…
jab gh - condor spire
spd - typhoon
ultra grab
ultra AA grab
long HK and some good normals
slowwwwwww and big
and high stamina
i agree with this^^
And i want to add that if Lariat don’t get a nerf then Zangief(i ve heard that if the opponent crouch Lariat no matter how big he is, he can punish it and that’s a good thing:rock:) will have better reversal than T.Hawk.
I suppose that T.Hawk’s Tomahawk will be at list 5 frames start up or at best 4 frames(but i doubt it).
Lariat consider to be the best anti air/reversal in SFIV.
So sadly Zangief will have something better from T.Hawk.
T.Hawk’s tomahawk will be better only for opponents who tries to escape.
Also they will have differences of course to their movement.Poking game generally.
While T.Hawk has some very good tools for poking from afar and his HK roundhouse is one of the best so far Zangief has motivation to his pokes.This helps him to approach the opponent more easily.
T.Hawk has Condor Dive and ESPECIALLY Condor Spire to approach.But then again it will be interesting to see which one of them has the best mobility.
Also i want to see if T.Hawk’s Typhoon will do the same damage as Zangief.I hope for the same because in all the previous Street Titles was exactly the same to the damage factor.
and if Condor Spire is indeed more safe than Banishing Flat then T.Hawk will be superior to Zangief for approaching the opponent generally.Zangief must relying most to his pokes.
Does anyone know or have seen if HP Tomahawk can do 2 hit like Turbo?
Because i haven’t notice that so far in the videos with T.Hawk.Ex can do it and that’s for sure.With FADC in Condor Dive can do 3 hits.But i haven’t see so far is HP Tomahawk can do 2 hits.
Maybe i didn’t seen it somewhere.
Has anyone a video to approve that?I think he’ll have it.Why to change it after all.
Also…
Don’t rely to much to that.They said that is too tricky or difficult to execute U2 very effectively.
I heard from people that will play T.Hawk only because has very cool U2.
lol Many people are going to dissapoint with that.
It’s not that easy if you haven’t play T.Hawk in previous series.That comes to all characters ofcourse.
Also Zangief has a very useful tool that i don’t think T.Hawk will have it.:sad:
He posses short jump which is usefull for many ways.The first that comes to my mind is to avoid anti-airs and go for a mix up with SPD.See here what i mean=> [media=youtube]-6OhtwgWp3s[/media]
If T.Hawk posses this also it will be a terror because he has Condor Dive from the air for a better mix up.But i doubt it.
U2 may be good for online against those non stop jumping scrubs.
I am wracked every night by the knowledge that T. Hawks’ HMMMMMMMMM is gone.
^^ am if you want to play online that’s fine.
But personally i don’t play online.
Offline is a better way to understand the game and the feeling of the character.And ofcourse with always the slightest lag you can’t perform links and combos like offline.
It’s also more proffesional ofcourse and without all the scrubs that you can meet online.
The geatest players in the world never play online for specific reasons.
I think i might give Thawk a try in this version. Sounds like he’s really high on the bullshit factor. Maybe run a two man team of him and Makoto. I’ll call it Team WTF!? CHEAP!. :bgrin:
I agree 100%.
It was so cool… his trademark… why would you remove it? : /
Yeah^^ i agree with that.
I think in Japaneese voice it comes more close to the old one.
But then again the old one is da best!!!
Its a crime.:sad:
I have a feeling Hawk is gonna be nasty in this game…I’m so hyped about Hawk that I want to give him a shot, and Ive never used a 360 character.
Official move lists for new SSF4 cast members
"For some reason, T. Hawk didn’t get any screen captures, but you can stop by the guide for him here on EventHubs.com to see most of his moves." -EH
No one likes T Hawk. haha
Fine by me. 
LOL… okay man.
online is better than no line. (for those who cant play offline). even with online lag, you’re still learning the basics of your character and different matchups. i had to come to realise that about HDR. if anything, you should play online for matchup expirience.
in other news, how do u guys think t hawk will do now that the new grappler hakan has entered the ring? its a face off between hawk, zangief, and hakan. i cant wait to see who is the best between the 3.
hakan will be for the higher level players since u have to learn 2 stances and learn specific matchups/frame data to counter such characters…like some matchups might be better not to rush down and some might be better to rush down and kill him before he gets momentum
hawk will be like gief without the killer wakeup game but will have his close range game be killer, but he can zone a little bit better than gief
gief will be the scariest close range game but shtty long range/mid range game since no lariat trade to ex gh
i think that Hawk would be like rufus, he is good, but people dont like the character.
Also, do you guys think that they didn’t make possible upper FADC because of U2?
It all depends if he has jabs into knockdown combo (preferably low attacks). Gief is a beast because he doesn’t even NEED 360 when he gets in. He can easily score counter-hits and catch jump-outs with his jabs/shorts and then combo into a SWEET knockdown for ambiguous crossup, rinse, repeat.
Hawk is gonna have the day-1 mash DP/360 mixup, but if he can’t capitalize on those jabs, he’s probably not going to be nearly as scary as Gief. You can’t just rely on 360 whenever you get in. Not being able to FADC the DP sucks too.
All just speculation of course, maybe Hawk has other things going for him that will make him completely broken, who knows.