Seems that the Tomahawk is quite safe for a DP move as well. And if you use it in a wasy so that you know you would FADC, then you could just do EX DP xx EX Dive instead. Maybe.
The reason it can’t be FADC’d is probably because of the massive threat of DP xx FADC -> Ultra 1.
As long as you can cancel any tomahawk into EX dive…I’m fine with not being able to FADC it.
And spire’s good? YES!!!
t.hawk sounds like he might actually be good.
not sure why they nerfed giefs health but it might be to try and persude users to give hawk a go.
Nope, onle EX tomahawk can be cancelled to EX Dive. At least from what I’ve heard/seen.
They might have changed that from earlier builds…but we won’t know until the game’s out.
That’s why I added that last sentence But I think We would have heard about it if it was changed.
I wonder if he still has that fast close standing kick normal that whiffs over crouching opponents. It was used to buffer 720. That’d be nice.
St. LK hits crouching opponents now and is still a good 720 buffer, check the Sakura vs. Hawk video from the Las Vegas fight club and you’ll see it.
About not Tomahawk FADC
So far we don’t know if he can be cancel it into a Dive at the simple version.We have only seen the EX version only.
But even if he is a threat with the Tomahawk FADC (to opponent ofcourse) it will not be a broken move.It’s just a very good mix up for T.Hawk and the opponent.
Because if T.Hawk posses an FADC to his shoryuken then the properties that he ll have will be something to hit or grab landing and something that hit to the air.
Ofcourse when he is at the ground the first MUST things that comes to my mind is his U1/command throw/throw or another shoryuken for reversal if the opponent tries to escape or to try to hit or something.
Other things is the use of some pokes fo a mix up(with jump in or not) or a Condor Spire to hit and close again the distance.
If the opponent thinks of a command throw and jumps backwards to escape then you have other tools for that. U2/shoryuken/ or jump and hit him with a jab or a simple Condor Spire to approach him again.
There are a lot of conditions and mix ups after an FADC shoryuken for T.Hawk.
Is just depending at the current situtation.
There are a lot of characters that they have mix ups after using a FADC shoryuken.
If T.Hawk has not trades (i dont think he need them) i think its a really good move for a mind game for a grappler character.
I hope to a future patch.:bgrin:
(but i don’t think will do a patch for something like this.So i guess i hope for this in Turbo)
T Hawks Alt: http://www.eventhubs.com/images/2010/mar/11/new-super-street-fighter-4-alternative-costumes-image-2/
I’m really interested in Hawk. I’ve never played 360 characters in the past so I’ll have to practice.
One question though, how does Hawk get around fireballs? Can you EX Condor Spire through them?
FADC and maybe low Hawk Dives I guess.
I like the alt. Very tribal.
Looks like Honda. Can’t say I like it.
In the group shot with every new character, I thought it WAS Honda
To be honest I’m actually hype about hawk. After hearing he has good normals and seeing that he has options after his condor spire hits I’m actually excited to play Hawk again.
Nice find on Ref. Why couldn’t his pants looks more like… pants. They look like Ramen Noodles. : /
Oh wow… that alt looks ghastly!
Hrm. . do the new guys get 3 costumes like everyone else?
Maybe he meant close s.rh? I know i use to whiff it into 720 in the older games. Dunno about the new game tho.
Nope, only 2.