Judging from that Sakura vs. Hawk vid it looks like Hawk has all that he needs. I have confidence.
i agree. or even standing strong.
I apologize for being too lazy to read the entire thread, but does his jump jab still have a GDLK hitbox?
I don’t think so, no air moves in SFIV has lingering hitboxes like that. Other than command moves, ofc.
Sagats j.mp would like to have a word with you.
It doesn’t have that many active frames though. Iirc, if you did T.Hawks j.LP as soon as you jumped, the hitbox would be out until you landed.
Yea I should specify–I know the newer SF games don’t have jumping jabs/shorts persist for a long time in the air, but his old j.jab had a very large hitbox as well that gave it alot of priority. Does anyone know if that is the case with this game?
Condor Dive looks pretty safe to some characters(like Sakura even though if we don’t know if she has a better punisher move than jump in).Condor dive was never punished from jump in attacks after a block.
But for Sagat or Dhalsim (especially Dhalsim) im afraid that it could be very unsafe.
But its not the end of the world even if someone can punish it not as hard as some other moves that can take a lot of damage.
The thing is that Condor dive has the same speed as in the old titles and thats a very good thing.
The addition of a possible cross up will make it sweet.:wgrin:
[media=youtube]P_-rGZlDMgA[/media] T Hawk vs Akuma
Sweep looks fast imo.
he also did a 360 after the condor spire. it wont work on dp characters who anticipate it, but for those who cant anti air looks like they can only jump back, and that means ultra 2 or dp hopefully
And safe.
And fucking WAY better than Guile’s.
But you can FADC the first hit of Guiles sweep if you want to :3
not like its that useful anyways.
im actually suprised on how fast the sweep is. only gripe i have is that t hawk walks so slooooow. didnt he at least walk faster than gief in ST?
have you seen Guy walking? Slower walk speed is common in SFIV.
In ST Hawk had the same walk speed as Ryu. He actually walked faster than Gief.
wakeupLIVE Recap:
*Ricky O thinks T Hawk is cheap
*Fast recovery on DP
*Less horizontal range on Dive (“no reason to use it all”)
*Condor Spire replaces Dive
After I’ve heard what they did to Gief (decrease his health), I’m ready to main T.Hawk. I really like what I saw in the Akuma-Video. If he’s better than Gief, screw you Capcom 
But at least I have my second favorite Grappler (and Character), who seems to be very good. I guess he also won’t be such a hatemail-magnet because he has no lariat.
-T.Hawk will probably have the first health in the game.Zangief has get nerfed here.I don’t know yet if he will have the same health as Gief at the first SFVI (1200) or the staminas now are starting from 1150-1100.In any case its a possibility for T.Hawk to have the biggest stamina.
-T.Hawk’s Condor Dive is usefull only for cross ups and for armour break.Has less range now and its very unsafe (like Turbo:crybaby:)
-T.Hawk’s Condor Spire is the best tool to aproach the opponent and ofcourse to start a mix up because from what we have seen until now its very safe and can do many things once you are close enough.
-His sweep is very fast and has a great range while its very safe.A god like poke!!!
-Tomahawk buster(Upper hawk) cannot FADC sadly.And i can’t understand why not.It will make T.Hawk even better.While all shoryuken type moves can FADC in SFIV T.Hawk’s cannot.:crybaby:
The only cancel is Condor Dive but its not so good.
-From the video with Akuma and all the videos i have seen so far with Hawk, he must do great damage with his poking game.Similar to Zangief.That’s pretty good actually because T.Hawk’s pokes has great range generally.
-So far some things about T.Hawk…
I don’t believe that T.Hawk’s U2 is bad.I suppose that it will be similar to Rose’s U1.But the difference will be at the hitbox of the move.Rose’s U1 can grab the opponent while his falling from the jump better while T.Hawk’s U2 can hit the opponent when his rising to air so i think that this Ultra must be pretty good while opponent will jump ro escape.
only reason i can think of why tomahawk buster cant be FADC’d is that it might have some kind of crazy ass priority on it where it will end up beating a lot of jump in’s. im kinda thinking something like balrog’s headbutt.