I noticed that I could abuse a lot of stuff against Abel that I couldn’t against others. I was keeping him trapped in corners with spire’s (although this would probably be beat against better players) and all them gimmicks.
Those traps sound really nice, I’m definitely gonna try them out next time I play against this Abel. Thanks for the tips man.
Honestly Conder Spire is a move thats really weird vs able idk why. The hit box is fcking freakkyy
Here’s a vid of me (losing) to a Vega in a team tourney this past weekend:
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Any suggestions are welcome. Vega is a bitch for me to deal with.
Roundhouse Button > Vegas air move set
Dont pick ultra two. Its so bad =(
All wall jumps you can punish with jump back round house. If you think he is going to do the grab wall jump do jump back short or backdash(ithink?)
Just play more lame. And actually walk forward and force the situation on him. You were playing scared whole match because you kept freezing during outpoke situations.
and if you had Ultra two when he back flipped you could of had a free ultra
Just lame Vega out and play defense. You have trouble with him for a week then hes free =/
ANd learn how to tech a throw for gods sake everytime I called a throw on claws side I was right. This claw is not that good =/
Thanks, I know I’m horrible at teching throws, I’m just not familiar with other character’s throw setups to see them coming in time, that and I get nervous and stop thinking about it. Work in progress, though. Actually, after seeing that pointed out and going back, the throws are quite obvious.
I played some matches against Flash/Ryan/sighraxx tonight on the OS stream. Ryan said that I need to use more command grabs and I need to work on anti-airing better. I’ll upload the vids in an hour or so and show you guys.
After re-watching the replays, damn I played like trash. Still uploading them though.
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I dropped s many ezmode jab strong ex spire combos…
The set-up at 1:14 was cute
Missed a link around 1:43 It was a guess too. You did a Close Feirce and you could of followed up with a crouching short. And then you tried to SPD and screw up the input;glad you did cause you would of gotten punished HARD
Very goot grab at 2:05 AND YOU SCREW UP ANOTHER LINK!!!
Jab-strong EX Spire!! You could of kept momentum too
I would of Round houses after the blocked strong at 2:53 or so. Assume that good players are going to back dash
2:59- Lucky you whiffed that jab spd
3:04 YOU COULD OF ROUNDHOUSED HIM!!
At 3:30 or so there is a point where you are standing there with “no options” this is where knowing the range for EX SPire into ultra is amazing becuase if you knew how to do that you could of and prob would of won the round. You were in range when cody was in the corner and you just stood there. Learn that input because once your opponant knows that you know how to do that you can start making them guess when you have Ultra 1 .
4:00 OMG could of won there … you know how. Well a lot sooner.
N4:44. Cute
4:57 or so was a few round house on the back dash
5:11 AGAIN hit confirm that stuff
At this point at 5:31 he is establishing he is not ready for you to do ultra on a jump it. He has a feel for your play.
I hear jump in round house and feirce are really good btw
DONT DROP VORTEXS 6:14 or so and that ultra was exactly what I was talking about
Noting you really could of done at 6:50; It was your only option.
Yeah, I kept dropping links. Idk why. Might have been lag (since they were streaming it live while playing). But yeah, I usually don’t drop that. 
Thanks for tips man. I appreciate them. Hoping to keep leveling my Hawk up.
Next tourney I’ll be going to is on the 18th of December. Spooky will be streaming it so look out for me on the stream. Hoping to place well.
Also dont over compliate punishes I failed the mention that; Im guily of it too.
If a Ferice 360 does 230, why do a 3 hit combo that does same damage.
I understand momentum is a huge factor. But I found that a 360 character has his whiff puinishs writting out. “Grab and start the 50/50”
All the hawk players videos ive seen have to work on 50/50 states. But we all do. I understand we are forced a lot of times to play footsies and not be trained into patterns, however.
Without looking at the numbers I believe the benefit is stun.
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The stun on FP 360 is 200.
A 3 hit combo consisting of jab, strong, MP SRK is 310. Some character you can do fierce of course but I was using Cody as the test dummy.
Yeah I have not stunned anyone in ages.
I really like Jab, Strong, Cr. Forward in footsies, btw.
what could i have done thats decent chip against a honda ?
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I think you played it just fine. It’s too bad that there’s different advice that has to be given for online play though.
The only thing that I could offer is to try and guess less, you made 2 or 3 empty SRKs before he did anything that you would use SRK for.
Doing cr. lp x5 after the splash is easier, but consider doing a st. LP > st. LK for the last two hits, or learn the 1 frame link to st. MP for the last hit for the damage bonus.
Offline, I think his LP headbutt generally beats your splash, but timing was in your favor here.
I like how you turtled to try and finish the 3rd round to bad it didn’t come through. Some characters you have to get the life lead and turtle to win.
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That’s odd, I noticed the same thing in my game. People play much more defensively against Hawk now.
Why end in cr. fw? Something to do with a spacing setup?
Those mid to full screen HB’s by Honda are begging for a empty jump back, SPD on your part.
Chip nothing. Those butt splashes are free spd on block. Including that second last one at the end of the third round (the non-ex one, blocked ex is also a free spd). You didn’t block the other two that I saw, but if you can block them, it’s a free spd. (I’m pretty sure it’s all strengths, but at the very least strong/fierce butt splashes are free spd, also be careful because if you don’t block it, the timing is all off… generally I wouldn’t try to spd a whiffed butt splash, just the blocked ones)
Infinite quotes I need to replay to.
I link the cr.fw so that it puts you back at max range of normals. Also catches mash DP.
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It’s online, and he was already mind fcked by your T.Hawk just throw in a Condor Dive. His only option would of been a Head Butt. He cant ultra it if he jumps back you have enough recovery to block. Makes no sense.
I also like LP,LP,Lp,LP, LK after a splash.
Honestly, we hawk players have to abuse vortex splash and Elbow drop. SOO dumb
jabbing after a splash is such a waste
do a standing MP to tomahawk buster
if you have the meter, do EX tomahawk buster then EX condor dive