Yeah, there’s definitely a discrepancy in those videos between what is happening in-game, and the stick motions. Is this legit?
Somehow, I don’t think so. Dude is just “flicking” the stick and he’s getting Typhoons and Supers. I don’t even see a clear 360 motion or 720 motion. Those stick motions don’t make any sense. Hell, I don’t even see a clear half circle motion. Dude is doing like quarter circles or something.
I wouldn’t be surprised if dude was using a macro or a modified joystick. Some players are tech wizards and can modify a stick to do a 360 or 720, and all they have to do to activate it is to “flick” it a certain way. I’m not accusing the poster who put up those vids, I’m just saying, the motions don’t make sense. IMO of course.
You argue with Damdai and myself that you are a better Hawk player and more knowledgeable about Hawk in general in SFII but then drop this post? How is it that you “know more about Hawk” than anyone else, and argue about R.Hawk and how R.Hawk is better than his ST counterparts…but then drop a post as bad this? Stop carrying yourself as some godlike knowledgeable player if don’t understand Hawk. Asking questions is acceptable if you don’t get something, I have to ask Nohoho and Maj, and the Japanese players that I know, about stuff all of the time…but you instead just insult everyone when you drop into the ST section like a total novice while simultaneously acting as if you are some SFII master in the HDR section. You cannot have it both ways if you insist on posting in the ST section.
You are accusing NeoRay and djfrijoles of using macros? Are you for real with this stupidity? Stick to the HDR section please with your misinformation.
NeoRay is friends with VIPER, VIPER being the player who developed and fully realized most of these techniques. NeoRay is the one who is showing everyone how to do the newer Hawk techniques on GGPO. Not to mention that djfrijoles and I have been painfully spending hours in training mode trying to figure out this stuff for months since [media=youtube]072k_vdclPE&#t=1m37s"[/media]. Instead of dropping in here and shitting all over everyone’s hard work and effort why not contribute something? Or why even post at all?
Hours of practice Blitzfu…not macros and cheating.
papercut got the flick typhoons going while toying with it at ncr. for the super he throws out a jab to keep him on the ground, flicks, then takes a step forward and flicks again for the super.
the motion for option typhoon/rising hawk is ridiculous! it’s so akward changing direction in the middle of a spin, but he makes it look so fluid.
this is pretty el oh el. its all right there, with a video and everything. but i bet that 80 percent of the ppl watching it still wont get it. its so simple but I don’t think I would have ever figured it out if not for that video.
It took me almost 3 months to find this and be able to share so you can take a shit on it and wipe your ass with my efforts. Keep up the good work :tup:
P.S. I’m quoting you in case you feel like deleting your post.
Frijoles, I appreciate your post. I told papasi and moocus at NCR as soon as I saw that vid, I said that if I ever meet frijoles or neoray, I’m buying them both a beer.
Hi djfrijoles, vf4, papercut or anyone who can do the following:
I pm’ed keits and he agreed to post these 2 videos on the front page. But he said we’ll need annotation to go alone with these
Like at time xx:xx, he’s doing
Neutral far :lp: > hold down :3p: > :u::ub::hcf: > walk > release :hp:…:mp:…:lp: > roll quickly :r::df::d::db:
and at time xx:xx he’s doing that, etc.
Also add more background info for someone who does not understand how to utilize 360/720.
TBH I’m not a hawk player and his hands are moving too fast. For example I still can’t see clearly the motion he used for option select typhoon/rising hawk.
Of coz it would be best to embed these into the videos themselves. But I guess a separate text annotation will still suffice.
Man after 15 years people are still finding new cool stuffs with ST. I believe the japanese only started doing this maybe 2 years ago. It’s alien technology
Viper using it in a [media=youtube]072k_vdclPE&#t=1m37s"[/media] is just gdlk. Papercut you need to pull it off in a real tourney match, not just in casuals!
Is there any way you could post the videos up at a slower speed? That very first 360 in part 2 was so fast I couldn’t tell what was happening at all. Even better would be normal speed except 1/15th speed when he’s putting the motions in. I might be able to do the video editing needed, if you don’t mind me ripping off your video.
Also, what are the exact inputs needed to get the 360(270?)/720 out? It seemed like he was going so fast there is no way the game was registering all 8 directions.
[03:47:59 p.m.] djfrijoles: hello neoray are you there
[03:48:40 p.m.] djfrijoles: Im so sorry to bother you again but your video has the Americans going crazy
[03:48:45 p.m.] djfrijoles: CRAZY
[03:50:09 p.m.] djfrijoles: They want to know if you can please do a video like the second one with slow motion and focus on your hand/inputs. They are not understanding how you let go of the stick to do double typhoons
[03:50:29 p.m.] djfrijoles: you are very famouse now on Shoryuken.com
[03:50:33 p.m.] u: hi
[03:50:39 p.m.] djfrijoles: hi neoray
[03:50:46 p.m.] djfrijoles: you are going to think I bother a lot
[03:50:57 p.m.] djfrijoles: Im sorry about this
[03:51:08 p.m.] u: no prob. lol
[03:51:08 p.m.] djfrijoles: Americasn are going crazy with your video
[03:51:17 p.m.] u: oh really ?
[03:51:18 p.m.] djfrijoles: you can look for yourself
[03:51:21 p.m.] djfrijoles: YES CRZY
[03:51:24 p.m.] u: im really glad !
[03:51:26 p.m.] djfrijoles: LOL
[03:51:50 p.m.] djfrijoles: can you make a video with more close camera on your hands and slow motion
[03:52:04 p.m.] djfrijoles: I will post them on Shoryuken
[03:52:22 p.m.] u: it is easy to make a video
[03:52:25 p.m.] djfrijoles: =O
[03:52:34 p.m.] u: so i will make it again
[03:52:47 p.m.] djfrijoles: can you make the camera focus on your hands more closly
[03:52:53 p.m.] djfrijoles: they want to do the sam as you
[03:52:55 p.m.] djfrijoles: the input
[03:53:05 p.m.] u: do they want a video for a only hawk ?
[03:53:13 p.m.] djfrijoles: yes for your hands
[03:53:21 p.m.] djfrijoles: what they dont understand is this ill show you
[03:53:31 p.m.] u: if they want one for other charactors , i do make it
[03:53:50 p.m.] djfrijoles: for now if its ok with you just t hawk
[03:54:11 p.m.] u: and i will try making it in English lol
[03:54:22 p.m.] djfrijoles: =O
[03:54:25 p.m.] u: okey dokey
[03:54:42 p.m.] djfrijoles: they dont understand how
[03:54:49 p.m.] djfrijoles: you release the stick
[03:54:56 p.m.] djfrijoles: for double typhoon
[03:55:03 p.m.] djfrijoles: let go of fingers
[03:55:28 p.m.] u: maybe
[03:55:41 p.m.] djfrijoles: at 0:09 in the second video
[03:55:46 p.m.] djfrijoles: you release the stick
[03:56:02 p.m.] djfrijoles: [media=youtube]z7KVcbXaJyA&feature=player_embedded[/media]
[03:56:05 p.m.] djfrijoles: in that one
[03:56:07 p.m.] djfrijoles: 0:09
[03:56:13 p.m.] u: ok
[03:56:27 p.m.] u: it is “flipping typhoon”
[03:56:31 p.m.] djfrijoles: yes
[03:56:40 p.m.] u: i have a question
[03:56:43 p.m.] djfrijoles: stick release
[03:56:45 p.m.] djfrijoles: yes
[03:57:06 p.m.] u: other countries have same stick as japanese one ?
[03:57:20 p.m.] djfrijoles: most people use japanese sticks
[03:57:23 p.m.] djfrijoles: I use korean
[03:57:26 p.m.] u: oh
[03:57:26 p.m.] u: ok
[03:57:34 p.m.] u: so they must be able to do it !
[03:57:35 p.m.] djfrijoles: americans mostly use sanwa and semitsu
[03:57:44 p.m.] djfrijoles: and Happ
[03:57:54 p.m.] u: semitsu is good
[03:58:23 p.m.] u: when i live in New Zealand , they have different stich
[03:58:27 p.m.] u: stick
[03:58:29 p.m.] djfrijoles: =O
[03:58:42 p.m.] djfrijoles: thank you for your time neoray
[03:58:52 p.m.] u: quite tough to get used to do it for me lol
[03:59:02 p.m.] djfrijoles: do you want to become a member of shoryuken.com ?
[03:59:05 p.m.] u: it is no problem
[03:59:18 p.m.] djfrijoles: a lot of people have questions for you
[03:59:36 p.m.] djfrijoles: you would be a link between America/mexico and Japan
[03:59:46 p.m.] u: can i join easily ?
[03:59:52 p.m.] djfrijoles: Just register
[03:59:57 p.m.] djfrijoles: I will link you
[03:59:59 p.m.] u: for free ?
[04:00:07 p.m.] djfrijoles: yes
[04:00:10 p.m.] djfrijoles: lol
[04:00:11 p.m.] djfrijoles: =P
[04:00:14 p.m.] u: oh ok
[04:00:21 p.m.] u: i will join lol
[04:00:23 p.m.] djfrijoles: lol
[04:00:44 p.m.] u: it is good for me to study English probably
[04:01:32 p.m.] djfrijoles: Oh these people will surely show you all the colours of English
[04:01:45 p.m.] djfrijoles: here is the registration
[04:01:46 p.m.] djfrijoles: Register at Shoryuken
[04:02:07 p.m.] djfrijoles: I will help you with anything you need help
[04:02:15 p.m.] u: plese help me if i have trouble about English in shoryuken.com lol
[04:02:21 p.m.] djfrijoles: yes of course
[04:03:48 p.m.] djfrijoles: everyone will be glad you are coming to shoryuken
[04:03:56 p.m.] djfrijoles: they need help lol
[04:11:00 p.m.] u: there is T.Hawk town in japan lol
[04:11:00 p.m.] djfrijoles: you will find the thawk thread
[04:11:08 p.m.] djfrijoles: REALLY ?
[04:11:12 p.m.] u: yes
[04:11:16 p.m.] djfrijoles: lolololololo wow
man, after he joins SRK, he’s gonna hate americans. I can explain it, so as to be a buffer to all the idiots going his way. the 360 motion is is not really a 360. from 1p side
:hcb::ub::u:. when he flicks it, the stick swings all the way from walking to back to up. thats why in the vid you see him flick it and not push any buttons. you will notice at that moment he is flicking it, hawk jumps. that flick motion hits all the edges required for the spd.
no one appreciates that video like I do. because I spent literally hundreds of hours in training mode doing it the wrong hard way. I broke my stick for christ sake. in training mode. not even in a real match. unless you’ve gone through that, you’re not worthy.
PS.
Welcome to the forum NeoRay. I owe you a drink. Domo Arigato!
wouldn’t you be pissed? you put in so much time and effort to figure something out. and then everyone else just gets a free ride. with a freaking video too. and still, people complain. I swear, I hate people.