Good to see that extended hitbox coming to some use. But with that 20 frame startup, can you really beat those on reaction? And with those 11 frames of recovery, do you really want to take a guess?
can you try out ex condor dive at full range?
just to see if hit will hit and fast landing or just land without a hit.
Look how buff Yun/Yang palm is. It always trades in their favor.
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There are a few more matches of me (losing) trying to do stuff with grab. You can see how much damage Yun does in a short period at the beginning of this video. It seems like there are plenty of opportunities for EX grab during their strings and they might be susceptible to jump-ins unless palm is timed perfectly. I tried some other junk like splash > MP > cr FP but it doesn’t work, and spammed grab to see if I could catch palm or whatever they stuck out.
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In this one, there’s just whatever going on. I wasn’t paying attention and tried to do U1 after that focus attack LMAO.
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noticed cl lp st lp x 2 lk > spire isn’t safe on block with Yun.
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also, keep in mind that all versions DP already beats out ball clean, and it can have a little as 4 frames of start-up.
anyway, thanks for the videos gundy.
Here’s me fighting a Gief in AE. You can see his new EX GH. I also pull a j. jab > dive > 360 LOL.
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Here are some more: Looking at these now I’m wondering WTF I was doing, especially that Cody match. LMAO. I use U2 a few times in the Claw/Dudley matches. When I have to try, I’ll play serious, depends on the day too. Sometimes I have bad days when I can’t remember stuff.
T.Hawk vs Dudley. In this one I was spamming j. MK to try and cancel into dive. Didn’t work. 
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T.Hawk vs Vega(Claw) - I don’t remember which spire I was using, but whatever it was it doesn’t beat roll. Edit* I think LP spire veats roll, watch towards the end.
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T.Hawk vs Cody
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Here’s me vs Dae as Yang. I was trying to get in to do cl . HK and you can see it whiffed.
Here’s me vs BustaBust as Yun. U2 beats hop kick! Cr. MK looks good vs Twins.
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Can he FADC any normals besides CL ST MP and FR ST LK?
can hawk now ex tomahawk out on wakeups?
ex th now can’t do that because if it’s in active frames there are 2 frames that isn’t invincebility or being yellow.
and i always get hurt by vortex or especially zangiefs body slam ( jump forward, down hp ).
focus dash isn’t helping either because hawk doesn’t dash far away and gief still hits you or with his lariat or anything else.
i hope capcom deleted those 2 frames and made it invinceble.
can someone confirm this?
U2 looks so much better now. You would never catch someone that low with the Super version.
Sorry to come back to EX Dive, but seems everyones view is the same about it hitting lower body and cancelling. Does holding the 3 buttons have any impact?
Yeah, just for the record, that was out of Yun’s OVERHEAD, NOT a dive kick. Niiiice.
F ST HK and FP are your main weapons against Gief. You need to know too, that Condor Dive beats Lariat all day. Gief is probably the easiest to crossup with a splash as well, and an ambiguous crossup CD is easier to hit on him too.
I don’t quite understand what your getting at, but EX DP is a reliable escape on wake-up. its invincible on all 4 start-up frames and the first 3 active frames. I escape moves with EX DP all the time.
An easy way to test frame advantage is to see which reversals can punish it. Do it on Ryu first; if he can’t reversal DP it on block, then it’s at least -2. If Gief or T. Hawk can’t catch him with a reversal SPD on block, then it’s at least -1. If Ibuki can’t catch him with an Ultra 1, then it’s 0 on block.
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cen was saying in this video that ex spire into ultra 2 works. im assuming hes wrong but?
He also said that it hits backdashes. Hmmmm…
I was wondering about that as well.
We didn’t get it on video, but Wonder_chef specifically asked a player that day we recorded to walk into the corner and n. jump. He timed EX spire so that it hit them while they were in the air and he did U2. It did not connect.
There might be some other situations where it might work, but I doubt it.
It definitely went right through the opponent, EX Spire > U2 100% doesn’t connect.
I was thinking though, after a focus, can you do a low level focus to juggle them, then U2? I mean it wasn’t able to connect after a focus at all before right?
No its obvious then that U2 still has a throw hit detection box (blue box) which means its a throw so it cant be combod into unlike red hit detection boxes (red box) and cen and hu are just trolls.
i know the matchup against gief.
i play footies and cd him all day long.
if gief has a knock down against me and then body slams ( jump, down hp ) i can’t get out with ex dp.
ex dp has 2 frames wich isn’t invinceble and he seems to hit me right on those 2 frames.