Swedish Cartoonist Who Drew "Muhammad" Assaulted

I’m mainly referring to the Muslims in the united states and other westernized countries.

Not all of them wear head scarves and yell “Allah Akbar!” at the slightest provocation. Many of them lead pretty standard lives. I know this because I’ve talked to them, spent time with them, and shared meals with them. They are roughly the equivalent of nominal Christians who believe mostly out of a fear of offending their traditionalist parents, rather than out of any sort of fundamentalist devotion. They’re Americans through and through, and the fact that they have theological baggage they can’t easily discard only makes them seem more American to me, not less (not that I’m implying that you see them as unamerican, however I do believe a large portion of the country does, which is unfortunate) .

So yes, I agree that the “moderate” Muslim leaders have failed in containing extremism. I also think that the analogy to the Christian dark ages is mostly correct. However, when I think upon my Muslim friends, I simply can’t paint them all with the same brush. They don’t practice the same brand of Islam we often see portrayed on television. It would be nice, and spare us all a lot of confusion, if they simply adopted a different label than the extremists in their group. But the same could be said about Christianity.

Again, this needs a two pronged approach. We need to condemn unacceptable behavior from the outside of the religion. And they need to do so from within. The more they do it, the less we will have to. We’d be more than happy to let them clean their own house, but they seem incapable of doing so at the moment.

That’s not really moderate is it?

Thing is, I find it strange you think that the moderates don’t try to do anything to curb extremists. Moderates, by nature, are pretty low key. Extremists, by nature, are pretty…extreme. Guess which one’s actions get more recognition? Thank you media.

I’ve also always found it strange that for some cultures, any barbaric acts they do is attributed to their old culture, but when it happens to a Muslim country, it’s suddenly a religious thing. Then again, quite oftentimes it is the criminals’ own fault, stating that it was done in the name of Allah.

Still hate the one on the whole can’t change religion thing, by legal law. Always felt that if a person wishes to be Muslim (or any other faith/or lack of it), it should be because that is their beliefs and values, and not because the government fucking told them so. Damn you legislation!

I was more referring to muslim countries like Malaysia where shit like that happens. I realize some of the moderates here are relatively normal. Still doesn’t change the fact they have dumb beliefs.

What religion doesn’t have dumb beliefs?

Why do you keep responding to my post if your replies have absolutely nothing to do with what I’ve just said? You god damn broken record.

What part of my post did you not understand? What part of some people simply don’t give a fuck what the laws says do you not understand?

You’re here preaching some nonsensical bullshit so you can pat yourself on the back sounding real bitch-like.

And I’m here telling you, yes, freedom of speech and expression is nice and all, but it does not prevent you from violence, nor should it if you LOOK TO OFFEND.

Fuck that noise. Fuck you and your laws. Violence is a natural human reaction, and in the right situation, it’s perfectly justifiable. Just because of your pussy hippie belief of non-violence doesn’t mean the rest of the world believes in that shit. And it doesn’t make them wrong.

You make it sound like humans are supposed to act like such controlled robots when we simply aren’t. We’ve never been haywired to behave like that. Not only would it be utterly spineless, but also completely unrealistic to expect certain people to go on with their life as if nothing happened after someone offends them on some next level shit.

Maybe I should summarize my point once again before you go off rambling about completely different shit that I couldn’t give two fucks about:

Yes, Freedom of Speech is a right, and violence is bad, and we, as a human race, as adults, should have more self-control. BUT! This is a big BUT! This does not exempt one from getting a good ole’ ass-whoopin’ IF you go out of your way to offend your fellow man. Fuck that noise. As Realplayer puts it, Law is just is man-made concept/idea. It is in no way divine or absolute.

I’m neither siding with the attacker or the artist. I’m simply here stating that a lot of your pacifist ideas are not only unrealistic, but to be quite frank, real bitch-like. I’m sorry. Do you honestly expect the average,real, breathing, living, eating, sleeping, shitting person to just shrug shit off if some random dude came up to you and straight disrespect your culture, your religion, your race? Really? Really? **Really? Is you for real, really?**You may think he’s a cultured and highly evolved person and all that goody-sounding shit, but I think he’s a straight bitch with no backbone. If you think you’re better than me because you behave and think this way, you can go fuck off with your pretentious self.

It’s great to have a world in which we all hold hands and sing under the rainbow and there’d be no wars and nobody ever reacts to any situation violently. But that shit is not real. It’s some make belief bullshit. It’s on some real liberal hippi peace-and-love bullshit. The real world ain’t that nice. The sooner your realize that, then maybe then you’d stop trying to act like a fucking prick, offend people, get your face jacked in, then play the Free Speech card and act all shocked at how primal and violent human beings can be.

The KKK were not isolated kooks, their membership numbered in the thousands at their height, had tons of folk-support throughout the south, murdered hundreds of black people and were such a threat to law and order that they were finally infiltrated and destroyed from the inside out by the FBI.

You don’t know shit.

ya listen dawg, if you dont fuckin attack someone for offending you, you are spineless.

exactly

Thing here, though, is that the vast, vast majority of Muslims, to the tune 80+% of them, are in the Middle East, who either support, condone, aid or perpetrate the violent action taken by these people. And the thing is, when you read stories like this and then see guys like DHEvil, it makes you wonder about this politically correct image of the “few bad apples spoiling the bunch” and then flying plains into office buildings or if there really is a huge, unanimous problem.

This man, ladies and gentlemen, has lost an argument.

I really wish retards who don’t know anything about islam would quit posting stupid lies as fact online. In Sharia law (which is only the rule in hardline countries), People of the book, AKA Christians and Jews are accorded certain special tolerances according to the Quran, such as the right to practice your religion in private.

I don’t think ANYONE would consider Iran anything but a HARDLINE country, and it is not completely illegal to be a baha’i in Iran, only to practice it at all in public (and this includes baha’i organized literacy/study groups for illiterate children and adults, etc).

So if in IRAN, one of the WORST muslim countries to be a non-Muslim we find a certain amount of tolerance, you are seriously saying it is not allowed to be a non-muslim in moderate countries, like say Jordan? (HINT: Jordan is 92% Muslim and has Christian elected officials). Please keep your stupid non-facts to yourself, or try picking up a book or reading a news publication every now and then to learn something.

I know right? Isn’t it funny how the same law that lets you mock Muhammad or whatever this guy’s name is also lets you picket funerals of gay soldiers and slander them while their family tries to mourn. ONLY IN AMERICA BABY!!! (or so you thought…)

What part of that sentence isn’t true? Honest to God, please tell me.

You ARE a spineless coward if you do absolutely nothing to the person who’s just insulted

a) your race
b) your religion
c) your culture
d) your family

I’m not talking making little harmless jokes. I’m talking about real hate, real intent to degrade. Mean, venomous shit from the heart. In this context, how can you possibly defend the offender from violence? Fuck that.

See? This is why we don’t like those guys.

I know you’re not very smart, but quoting someone’s argument and then labeling yourself the victor, just cus, works when you’re 12, 13 max.

I know man, I hate political cartoonist too dood!!!

As far as being a coward about certain shit, and adult knows when there is a time and a place. Anyone can get angry, but then that’s the whole point when you actively seek to enrage people.

MLK and others back then stood up to worse shit without violence. I woudn’t hesitate to wreck someone if they got physical, but they took it one step further. People getting violent over pictures just doesn’t seem worth it in comparison.

Muslim poster on srk: “What?! You mean you wouldn’t behead your daughter if she was raped? You are such a coward!”

You’d be hard-pressed to find anybody who disagreed with me.

Is this made up and pulled completely out of your ass like your made up 80% of muslims are terrorist lovers statistic?

Why don’t we see what happens with a crowd full of black people today if you try to hose them.