I’m new to oni, but with DJ it’s all about spacing, fireball him from full to 3/4ths screen and st HP and of his jump ins, even if it trades it will most likely be in your favor. don’t fb him from half screen when he has meter, his ex kick goes through and has a lot of range. My goal is usually to slowly push him into the corner cause DJ’s escape options are poor. His wake up game is also kind of crappy, really only have to worry about ex upkicks. Also never jump in when he was db charge, use oni’s specials for mixups
I feel free to Juri. Help.
Little viper tip
Vipers love to do c.mk/c.mp xx MP/LP thunder knuckle pressure, and try it again if it hits. I also noticed that if you block, i swear 90% of vipers online backdash.
I tried OS Sweep, but the range is not big enough. Lucky for us, vipers backdash is horrible.
Do st.jab, forward + LK/HP
If she backdashes, she get caught with forward HP (120dmg!)
If she blocks, you do a simple stand jab xx forward LK. Safe on block and ok dmg should she try to continue to poke.
This sounds wonderful. You’re saying just press jab and then forward+LK+HP for it to work, right?
Correct. There is some room for error (jabbing 1 frame to slow, pressing lk/hp 1 frame to slow) and you will probably still get it.
Even if you mess up, because of the range after the backdash viper cant punish. Maybe with MP super lol
I guess you can use this against other characters who backdashes after “safe” reversals. Like fei long CW, Dan kicks. But i dont see these players backdash as much after and their dashes are not as bad as vipers.
I tried using Forward jab instead and trying to get the lp mp target combo, but the MP wiffs to much.
Have you tried f+HK? I find it seems to work better vs a lot of people who pre-emptively jump/backdash at the end of blockstrings. I play a decent amount of people used to the Oni matchup, so HK.slash never works. cr.LK, cr.LP, b+MP, f+HK seems to work on a lot of character’s neutral/angled jumps and backdashes.
f+hk would probably work. But viper is at the end of her backdash is no longer airborn. So you wont get her flying into the corner. Also f.hp does more dmg and has further range.
Don’t bother with ex.tatsu u1 juggle on Gen in the corner. He falls way to fast for it to land consistantly imo.
I am really at a loss on how to approach Cody. I just went from 3200PP to 2400PP trying to fight off this legion of Cody players that kept coming in. I can’t get anything in. It seems as though his forward medium punch is the problem. Not to mention getting hit by crounching short into criminal uppers. And the random zonk knuckle thrown in there make this one of the most frustrating matches I can seem to think off.
Edit: Oh, and Seth is a pain in the ass as well.
I never played a good Oni but based off Japanese Oni gameplay, Oni’s Pokes, Damage/Stun, Kara grab/demon potential, and overhead chop anti crouch tech I would say Oni vs Dudley is 5-5 or .5 Dudley with ultra 1
Fei long! frame traps- also cammy. did i mention blanka…
my advice for any kind of matchup:
1.Be patient, remember, Oni can hit you like a bitch with one blow
2.Play safe offensive, Oni is useless sitting back
The only effective way to beat blanka or dictator as oni, is to pick up guile
i dont think oni has any good matchups.
lol your avatar is hilarious. On a serious note I think he gives cammy problems. If you pick u1 it can force cammy to rethink her meaty cannon strike setups. Also st.fp is a shutdown for almost every jumpin she has other than ex.cannon strike.
I think that oni is decent if you focus on his (corner) pressure game and frame traps, and completely avoid cross up slashes (except maybe once a match). He still has great normals, great ultras, good dash and walk speed, great damage, 3 frame reversal and normals etc. He doesn’t have any great matchups but he doesn’t have any awful ones.
People just need to stop using fireballs in FADC combos… seriously combofiend
lmao
offline that is really inexcuseable. online i can see why ppl are trying to avoid the 1f that comes with the lk slash fadc.
I also can’t figure out why everyone keeps using Fireball instead of LK Slash… there’s literally no reason to do it. The only exception being EX Fireball > FADC > U2.
Anyone have tips for ways out of nasty Sakura setups? O_o
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what frame advantage are you at after lk slash fadc? Are you saying that the link to crouch fierce or crouch strong is a 1 frame? it doesn’t feel like it