SUPERCADE IS AMAZING! Supercade over GGPO

Isegrim · February 21, 2012, 2:31am

If you want only in for example… only be available in 3rd Strike chat Room… you have to make a folder where is only 3rd Strike and choose this folder voa preference in SUPERCADE.

So, now you receive only challenges from the SF3 competitors.

TheBastard · February 21, 2012, 2:38am

make a new folder (Supercade SSFT2) n put in there the zip files needed to run ST, I have in it 3 zip files, make it ur default folder, click scan n now u just must only appear in the ST room

u can put the rest of games in another folder (SupercadeLeftovers) n switch them when u want to play other games

djfrijoles · February 21, 2012, 7:20am

Oh I thought you could just enable the games you want to be available for. Bah Ill just move the ST rom then.

TheBastard · August 8, 2012, 7:19am

no, its not, its a great option besides GGPO, but u know what is actually shit? to whine about this:

Hello,

My name is “TheUtilityGirl” I am 23 year old “girl gamer”. This is about my experience with the Street Fighter community and specifically ST and GGPO.

I have been playing arcade and console games since I was a child. I remember going into an arcade as a child and seeing all the pretty lights and noise and just mashing my fingers onto a happ button on a old big woodie cabinet.

Gaming was a big part of my family for as long as I can remember. My father brought home our first Genesis and Street Fighter II Special CE when I was around 7 years old. I kept wondering what this game was. I never really played It in Arcades till I was much older. I just remember mashing kicks with Chunli or Spamming Blanka Electricity and Ken`s Fireball. Till one day I kept dropping quarters into an arcade machine. I was hooked at a very young age I guess you could say. I have loved playing street fighter ever since.

As I was growing up I played the MK games and CvS2 as well. But when I was 19 I found ST. You could say it was love at first sight I guess. Before ST I was competitive but after ST it was a burning desire to become as strong as I could. If playing ST with a few friends was falling in love then playing ST on GGPO was like getting married. I was exposed to a level of play and community that I had never experienced before. This was right after Ponder released ST on ggpo so I was able to witness the second age of ST.

I call ST on GGPO the second age for one main reason. It unified all the scattered players from all over the internet and small local communities into one single place. HSF2 on Xbox Live was dead at this point and outside of Japan there were only small communities of players in Cali, AZ and some on the east coast as well.

I experienced something playing ST on GGPO that i had never had before. The thrill of competition and the adrenaline surge when you are pushing your limit playing a strong opponent. Experiencing some of the strong OG`s like Calipower, GigaMSX, JumpSuitJesie, CigarBoB and DJfrijoles to name a few was amazing. This was also the first time we had access to some top Japanese ST players as well. In the beginning of GGPO ST the room would constantly have over 100 players. Watching Jodim and GigaMSX war it out with Dictator vs Zangief was just amazing. They made the game look nothing like the same game I was playing. This made me want to push even harder to learn more.

I will admit that I was a total scrub in the beginning. Playing all of the characters in the game and trying to learn everything all at the same time became a problem. It was Ganelon that was the first top player that took the time to sit me down and talk to me about how to learn to play ST. His first advice to me was to pick one character and move from there. I kept getting small pieces of advice in the chat and in game from random people.

One particular player became my friend and ST mentor and that was CigarBoB. While some player gave me advice here and there, CigarBoB actually spent time with me and explained the game in a way that I could understand. I feel like this was a turning point for me. I was finally able to experience the game like a top player. My skill level wasn`t there yet but I was working on it every day. With CigarBoB`s help I worked on my game and moved to playing Ken, Fei and Claw. I was getting better and better and started to take games off some of the stronger players. There was still a large gap in skill but I could feel myself getting stronger and stronger.

At this point HDRemix was coming out soon and the Beta had been released. GGPO was getting more and more popular as people were coming on to get brushed up for its release. The community and skill level had never been higher. More and more Japanese were coming on. American player were constantly improving and getting closer and closer to their Japanese counterparts. It was truly an amazing thing to be able to witness.

Up until this point my experience with ST on GGPO was really positive. I had met a few good players that befriended me and that I still call friends. Then HDRemix was released and this is where being a “Girl Gamer” finally became an issue.

Upon the release of HDRemix almost all of the "OGs" left GGPO for HDRemix. This caused something to happen to GGPO that I didn\t expect. Without the “OG`s” in the GGPO community the younger and weaker players became the dominant force. This also brought a flood of sexism in as well. All of the sudden I am being called trash for just being a woman. People spamming sexist remarks like “Tits or GTFO” and calling me UtilityBitch and other creative names. I was being told constantly that I could never be good at this game because I lacked a penis. I guess you need one to become a strong player in ST, or any game for that matter.

This continues to this day. In response I began to fight back in the chat as well. Calling the sexist players out and going off on them. What am I to do? I love playing ST but what GGPO has become is just a shallow empty version of its old glory. Now very few “OG`s” are left to keep the kids in place so they just keep swarming. No matter how hard I fight back it never ends.

I often feel that this is a problem with online gaming on all platforms. Any time that a girl Is playing in a group you either get “Hey wanna cam” or "I didnt know they had computers in the kitchen now". I am sure that many people are thinking that these remarks are funny. How would your own mothers react to you treating a woman like this in real life? Would she be proud of you for how you are acting? My love for competitive ST hasnt faded one but.

My love for the community that surrounds the game has become almost nonexistent at this point. When I do win games my male opponent will often lie about the results. When I call them out on it I just get called a bitch and a liar.

In this, and many communities similar to this, the females have to put up with so much just to play a game they love. Either you hide your gender and just play or you show that you`re a female and get harassed constantly. My love for ST is no less than anyone on GGPO. I have played for days at a time with very little sleep because I was so engrossed in the game and improving at the same time.

For me this is an end to the Second Age of ST. This is a very sad time for me because I love the game and I love what the community was at one point. I don’t know if I will leave like so many have in the past but how long can I take this type of abuse from so many of the other players?

Lets FT10 if u dare evil face

eltrouble · August 25, 2012, 5:47am

Not sure where this article goes, but meh, whatever, time to necro this bitch.

Anybody have a subscription to Game Dev? Maybe Kuroppi? I’m curious as to what makes GGPO tick and why it’s considered to be one of the premiere netcodes for playing fighting games online.

NickRocks · August 25, 2012, 5:53am

are vs games on supercade? id play it if it had mvc1 (or 2…)

TheBastard · August 25, 2012, 11:30am

mvc2 is made in Sega NAOMI, which neither GGPO or SuperCade support, only mvc1 is available in both plataforms

NickRocks · August 25, 2012, 11:32am

http://z4.ifrm.com/30153/94/0/e5255944/e5255944.gif

probably for the best, imagine all the macro/programmable pad Fagnetos there would be…

TheBastard · September 7, 2012, 12:16pm

anyone has recently used supercade? its been ages since the last time I used it, btw, ppl should ask to damdai to use MAME as the main emulator n not FBA

Wolmar · September 7, 2012, 2:10pm

what’s the diff apart from the game list ?

Turn_A_Turn · September 7, 2012, 2:18pm

I thought FBA had +1 frame input delay, is that why?

yomipower · September 7, 2012, 2:20pm

Only real differance between GGPO and Supercade is the netcode really, usually depends on who you ask which has it better. They use the same emulator, so there isn’t any gameplay differances, plus GGPO can run any game FBA supports but you just gotta cheat a little. Personally, Supercade is worse than GGPO, the netcode is a little finicky + there are not as much players as on GGPO. Definetly still worse than 2df was, why did you do it, Damdai?

CWheezy · September 7, 2012, 2:44pm

It is the same code as 2df, just a different name

TheBastard · March 23, 2013, 11:02am

disabling sound gives u -2 franes of delay, it has to do with fba being unable to properly emulate Q sound

Moonchilde · March 24, 2013, 2:12am

I played a couple games on Supercade recently. I’m getting much better reactions on it over GGPO, on GGPO it feels like people get to jump in on me for free, pretty frustrating.

BTW, Bastard, I know it was posted 7 months ago but for the record, I have asked Damdai about switching to MAME but he said that netcode isn’t officially supported so he’d have to choose a fork and doesn’t know which is best and then doesn’t know if Supercade could easily be built into it. If you could find a fork with networking support with good documentation that wasn’t forked a billion other times, he is willing to look into it.

TheSeanAlfe · April 20, 2013, 8:43am

There’s Mame Plus! Plus Kaillera, which is a fork of a fork (Mame Plus!). And then there’s Houba Plus! Plus Kaillera, which is a fork of that, but I believe it has better documentation. If I’m not mistaken, those are the most well known, closest forks and are both currently up-to-date with MAME.

Moonchilde · April 24, 2013, 7:17am

How are those versions for input lag? Are they as good as shmupsmame? If only shmupsmame was netplay enabled.

TheSeanAlfe · May 1, 2013, 1:10pm

There’s no added input lag for either of them. At least according to my test. They performed the same as MAME.

BoggleMinds · May 1, 2013, 4:04pm

I posted this in the HDR forum but probably should have posted it here instead. Anyway, I just tried ShmupMAME (http://shmupmame.wordpress.com/) and the difference coming from Final Burn Alpha used on GGPO is like night and day. There’s basically no input delay with ShmupMAME, compared to horrible input lag (which we’ve known about for years) with FBA. The thing with ShmupMAME is it’s been designed to remove as much input delay as possible, focusing especially on shmups, but they’ve also apparently made fixes to CPS2 drivers which allow games like ST to run very smoothly and feel extremely responsive.

I know moving to some version of MAME for GGPO is not happening ever, but it’s pretty disheartening when you switch between ShmupMAME and GGPO-FBA and feel the huge difference. I’m not sure if the latest versions of FBA have incorporated any input delay fixes for CPS2/ST, but I doubt it. We might be stuck using this outdated emulator forever.

Bonki · May 1, 2013, 6:00pm

Thanks for the info. I’ll try that right now

edit: Now I can definitely feel the difference. I ran Grand Master Challenge and just smooth gameplay.
Would you say its the closest thing to the actual arcade version?