Super Turbo revival in Southern California at Super Arcade

Classic Fighting Games Super Street Fighter II Turbo
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Hey there Fudd, didn’t know you were on stream. Good to know you were cheering for us, lol, the stream seemed to like watching our Old Characters team perform in the tourney.

We were on US speed 2. To be honest, it felt really good. It’s not as clean and perfect as arcade ST, but it comes damn close. It’s a FAR superior alternative to GGPO or HDR classic. The best part is, it’s highly accessible to anybody who wants to start an offline ST scene. All you need is a decent PC or laptop, 2 USB sticks, MAME and ST (which are free), and you’re ready to roll. I think it’s an acceptable alternative to investing a couple hundred dollars towards a super gun setup + board.

We had LCDs, they worked just fine. I just think it’s easier to transport and carry around, and it had no delay on it. Hauling around giant CRTs is difficult with limited space in the truck, and the sheer weight of it, plus DG and V’s arcade stands already take up plenty of room. CRTs would look better though.

You can turn on scan lines with certain versions of MAME. The issue was that it darkened the image on the stream, which made it difficult to watch. Plus the scan lines didn’t look quite right anyways, but maybe we just needed to find the right setting for it. There were like 10 different scan line settings, and we didn’t really have time, or bother to find one that looked nice.

Big shout-outs to the entire Super Arcade crew, especially Watson, Mondo, DG and V, Muffin Man, everybody who had a hand in making these streamed tourneys possible. It’s definitely a lot of work hauling around all of this equipment, and setting it up, so big thanks to everybody. Thanks for the stream monsters for tuning in. I hope you guys enjoyed watching everybody’s matches as well as the commentary on the stream.

And yes, I’m still salty from my loss with Power Duck/Paro-Da.

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I wasn’t. I just peeked a bit at the stream archive and I found your team name to be amusing.

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I wanna challenge whoever has the 10 spot. I saw Afro challenged El TROLLble so whoever has 10 after their match.
Fuck the clippers Watson.

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Almost forgot GG’s everyone we had some really close ones.

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I retract every nice thing I said about you, I thought you were a true fan of Team Rush Hour. A real fan would cheer us on from 4pm til closing. :wink:

Holy shit, I totally forgot about that challenge. We probably should’ve done it earlier, but Afro got there kind of late, and we had to wrap things up pretty quick in order to get Watson home in time. I also challenge synco, so whoever I see first, I’ll play.

And you ain’t ready for my TrOL’D.Guile. You see what I did there? Fuck, I’m clever.

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GG’s everyone as always (even muffinman & el trouble haha), and good shit to my teammate Digital Infamy for holding it down with some clutch Ryu play.
Thank you to DG&V, Voltech, Mando, and Watts for being so supportive of this week in and week out and giving all us a great place to play.
Really enjoyed the 2v2 format (even with random teams) and pairing up with a player that plays the same character gave me a chance to mess around
with claw.

Mame setup was pretty solid, whether it was the monitors/stand/etc or not it felt like a solid way to play ST for times/places where ST is not available in another standard format. I guess the trick is having someone in the community dedicated to setting up a pc dedicated to running it as I only noticed the pc act sluggsh for a split second the 8 or so hours we played on it.

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EDIT: nm

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i noticed a couple things. it was weird but a couple things happened like bison fierce flame only hit once on 2 occasions…

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good shit on Sunday. THX to DG & V for bringing out the setup! muffin for running brackets. all of you that got on the mic. now how do we get more ST players in here? also for the next installment of SS can we go back to cabinet or SuperGun? BTW shout out to Stacy for hooking everyone up with cupcakes.

yo MuffinMan you going to be here for WNF? if so i would like to put you in 7th place.

ohh shiiiiieettt before i forget special extra super thanks to Voltech for going out of his way to get me that adapter i needed.

nos vemos el miércoles

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I was just playing Voltech on Live and he told me you guys tried a mame setup, so I got in my time machine and went back to over a year ago when I was trying to get people to do this, AND RECORD INPUTS of the games but it required people to bring PC hardware to events (and/or encourage emulators) so I don’t think people tried it, even at Evo. But basically you record the inputs and then share the save states from those recorded games. It’s one thing to watch a video and go, oh that guy sucks I totally could have dragon punched that, but now you can actually test yourself for specific situations that occur in real matches. It would be mostly only a few seconds from the specific particular situation before it would “desync” so to speak (ie your recorded opponent is not reacting to what you’re doing, but rather the original player). You can play against a player you wonder how well you’d do, play against yourself, or use it for commentating/analyzing the matches instead of just talking about what you saw the players do. Also you can take a look at your own inputs after the fact and look for unwanted inputs/directions missed during moves etc.

XSPR

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How do you do that? Can you do that in GGPO and translate it to TRUST? There’s definitely a number of situations that come up in games that I’d like to practice.

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GGPO uses FBA which is not compatible with mame as it’s a different emulator and format. Yes, this should all be compatible with TRUST- ie you can make and share lessons/drill session scripts created from actual games.

MAME supports built in input recording
•To record from the command line:
mame <game> –record <filename>.inp
•And to play it back:
mame –playback <filename>.inp

So when you run mame, start it up by recording inputs (e.g. from the command line as described above), then after your session, play it back with the second command line line. During the playback, right before those critical moments that are crucial to the round etc. hit Shift-F7 to save the game’s state at that particualr point in the session (to find them you might have to play back a few times- probably want to watch it the first time just to make note of the critical moments’ framecount number which can be displayed in mame as it plays back). Note, you get so many save state “slots”, one of which is Shift-F7. You can use other slots (check the help) or just change the saved state file’s name after each save (find it in the the sta folder) from 7.sta to “dragonpunchChanceNum1.sta” or whatever. So now you have saved states from your session. To load them, start the game in mame normally and press F7 (no shift) and it will load the saved state of 7.sta (you can specify which save state to load, again check the help).

XSPR

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is anyone going tonight?

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im bringing my tripod and camera to record any challenge matches tonight.

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I’m coming out and I believe we (moocus and I) have a challenge match if you want to take it?

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sure. gotta take care of some stuff first, should be there around 8

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I’ll be there a little after 9pm if anyone is looking for me tell em I’m on my way :wink:

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damn what happened to everyone tonight???

gg’s to the ones that came through and the new faces.

gg’s to voltech in our money match that i lost. next time buddy!

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Hey Mondo GG’s we’ll run that back for sure.

The Super Turbo revival is alive and growing in Southern California!!
GG’s to all the new people (American Ninja, Final Justice to name a few) tonight I think there where 4 or 5 new guys here tonight and most said they would like to come to our Sunday Tournaments!

moocus - We’ll have to do our matches on Sunday. I was thinking we should do 2 on the Head to head and 2 on the American setup and if we need a tie breaker flip a coin to determine what setup we play on for the last game.

GG’s to Watson for beasting on us for the short time he played as well.

I’m gonna see if any Japanese players are on XBL now =P

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Couldn’t make it out last nite dawg… I’m Busy studying for a Microsoft exam. Glad to hear we have some new blood.