why is NKI so fucking nice. GOOD SHIT!!
You the man NKI, thanks again!
Uh…is it well known that Sagat’s reversals are unblockable in CE and HF…? And that it still works in AE…?
http://games.t-akiba.net/sf2/theo_sys.html#guard
You know, I’ve always thought peeps were just walking into my shit sometimes on AE, expecting me to not reversal… =x
And good shit on the quick chart translation.
This is how I always knew of it:
The actual reversal isn’t unblockable but there was some weird frames where Sagat could block a jump in and dp it every single time. Maybe back then we just all sucked at reversal timing, shrug.
From what I remember (i have now forgotten more about SF then most know about it) it was a CE thing - but where I lived we had no ‘real’ Sagats during HF. shrug.
Derek
haha, I wondered. Thats funny as hell. Reversal DP all day!
It’s cause sagats got the real power.
God!! Thank you NKI. All though i am going to learn Japanese just so I can understand this damn book. Im sure it wont take me more then a week or two.
Is there any where in the book that tells how much hit stun your opponent is in? I wish I could read japanese. 
All so. Can you explain what the green boxes are for? Im guessing the green box can be hit and hit as well. Cuz you know. Red and Blue make Green??? Is this right?
After looking at this book i see ST differently now. I think it makes me a better player. Its kind of like Neo seeing the matrix for the first time. When you look beyond the animations to the root of it all.
Ok im a dork.
The book doesn’t give frame data for the opponent’s hit-stun, unfortunately.
Green hit boxes are where the fireball can hit another fireball (and cancel it). Note that this hit box is distinctly different from where the fireball can hit the opponent.
And yeah…this book will change the way you look at ST. When you’re playing, and you see Dic’s headstomp cleanly beat Shoryukens, you think “What the hell…?” But when you look at the hit boxes, it totally makes sense.
Yeah, I’m a dork too.
what are the differences between o.ken and o.ryu
also i picked up fei cause that chicken wing trap looked so cheap but then quickly realized that it wasn’t that good, now i’m on o.fei’s nuts cause he can cancel everything into rekka’s. my questions are:
-are there any japanese o.fei players and how do they do?
-is o.fei even worth playing?
-since he dosn’t have chicken wing kick, how does he get in?
-is it me or does his firekick seem better
-any other tips?
The old shotos have quicker fireballs and invincible uppercuts, and none of the ST niceties such as Ryu’s rush punch and Ken’s air throw. </cliffs_notes>
i mean like, are o.ken and o.ryu the same? o.ken vs o.ryu, what are their differences
OK ill take this on.
O.Ryu
Huricane Kick knocks down on one hit. It has a slower rotation.
DP has less range.
Faster execution on FB and faster speed of FB’s
Has Red FB that will knock down
O.Ken
Hricane Kick will not knock down but can be used for dizzy combos on 60% of the cast. For example on sim you can Crossup RH cr.strong xx Rh Huricane and it will dizzy every time.
Huricane can all so be xx off of jumping fierce for a good throw trap.
Recovery from FB is faster then Ryu’s but he has slower start up. All so his FB’s travel slower.
DP has much more range on them. Fierce DP goes all most 50% of the scree and can be used for nailing ppl jumping strait up out side of sweep range.
All so Ken has a faster walking speed then Ryu.
O.Ken and O.Ryu are very different.
How come nobody ever wants to learn Dhalsim? Everyone always has to go easy mode char…cant they see that sim has no weakness and beats all =)
Im gonna be passin on my knowledge to AfroLegends, so all you nigs better watch out next EVO. Muaha
J-Cole
Sim is easier to win with than the Shotos…Except against that bitch Chun Li.
Speaking of Dhalshim…we would appreciate any of the tips you want to share, despite what I just said above 
never heard of that sagat thing before… Intresting though.
Actually, i have a couple of questions if you don’t mind.
How much of your gameplan do you have to change against people who are good at Reversal timing? A lot of us non-OG players never had that much experience with the classic SF2 games, and i don’t really feel comfortable/confident that i’ll be able to judge that timing correctly every time. On the other hand, i played against RekkaKen one day for two hours and that guy never missed a Reversal once.
Does it annoy you to play against people who get hit by too many tick setups? Again, some of us don’t know the way around a lot of Dhalsim’s serious tricks, so i’m thinking maybe you would feel like you’re not getting very good practice. I mean, i don’t wanna be boring you while i’m playing against you. But how else am i gonna learn? It’s not exactly easy finding good Dhalsim players.
Since Dhalsim has such a good long-range game and such a good tick/throw game, how do you decide which gameplan to go with in any given match?
What the hell dude. I play sim! And i want some of your knowledge…
Because sim is simply not my style of fighter. I’ve never liked him. I’d rather master Gief first. Besides, that fucker can’t take damage for shit!
Lol Sim is not that easy to win with when you are just starting off. especially with the billions of Vegas, chun lis, hondas and uppercut/spinkick happy shotos.
Majestros: Its all part of reading your opponent and starting the mind games. First time you play someone you test to see how they react to certain set ups (lick ticks). If he reversal uppercuts the tick , bait him next time and just go for the free hit. Though sharp shotos can play their share of the mind game as well and start sensing your hesitation. Then he just wakes up with an attack into whatevers and now he is right in your face. So it can get tricky, but its all about just testing and reading your opponent well. That in turn guides your hand at how to go about defeating a trigger happy shoto.
JumpsuitJesse: I aint talkin about you foo, you already have an established character. Im mainly reffereing to the new skool tryin to get into this game. They always run to chun, sagat or vega.
J-Cole
ps: Cigarbob, if my cabinet is flawless …you can have all my Dhalsim Knowledge =D
i play sim 
but i only play it in tourneys and i always lose to pretty much the chars you mentioned due to my lack of knowledge.