nohoho = the super turbo wapanese
therefore
counterpicking = bad
o.sagat = bad
hyoobal = bad too im guessing
whine whine whine
I’ve never understood the O Sagat hate. He’s really good, but so what? So are Sim and Boxer. He has a couple extremely good moves, but so what? So do Boxer and Claw. Could he be nerfed a bit? Of course, but so could Sim, Boxer, Claw, and maybe even Chun. I would argue that O Sagat takes considerably more skill to play than Claw, and yet the hate on Claw is not even in the same ballpark. I personally think he’s both interesting to play as and interesting to play against.
I see where the hate comes from but he is like only the fifth best character in the game if you exclude Akuma:
- Sim
- Claw
- FOB WHORE with man hands
- Boxer
- O. Sagat
The top tier ranked in order of easiest to play is:
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FOB WHORE with man hands. Chun is like easy mode in ST. Other characters have only one or two abusable things. She has more than that. Sirlin had better nerf her for HDremix. Her throw range should be reduced, her strong throw’s damage should be inverted with her fierce throw’s and both should be reduced in damage, her df+RH should remain a cross up but should be beaten by reversals in the correct direction (characters other than Ken should be able to fist the bitch out of the air), and finally her stored super should be eliminated.
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Claw because of walldive. If walldive is not knockdown and safe on block like it is rumored to be in HD Remix then he will easily retain his place in the top tier but his gay factor will go way down as the reason Claw is top tier is because his poking game is simply really fucking good.
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Boxer. Rush that shit down.
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O. Sagat. He is actually quite hard to play correctly even if his overall game plan is simple.
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Sim.
id say boxer is harder to play than o sagat but other than that yea youre pretty much right
Don’t worry, I’m doing my part to cure the public of their ignorance to Claw retardation
Welcome to my ignore list COUM and EvilSamurai. Say hi to callmeanewb for me?
“FOB WHORE” … charming.
Raisin - Are you going to MWC? Let’s talk (O?)Blanka vs. Cammy money match!
Ryu1999 - are you STILL hating on Vega all the time? 
That’s ok. I’m still loving on him (sorta homo) all this time too. :bgrin:
I don’t post much in this ST section but I sort of pay attention and looking forward to meeting some of you at the SBO qualifier hopefully maybe???
Sim - too good, but at least takes a lot of practice and skill to use.
Boxer - also too good, but has weaknesses and takes some skill to use
O.Sagat - can be learned in 10 minutes, let the raep commence.
It’s just ridiculous the amount of effort the other guy has to put in to beat O.Sagat, while the O.Sagat player is pretty much just spamming tigers. Heaven forbid the O.Sagat player might actually be GOOD, then it’s like trying to swim up shit creek in a straightjacket.
The amount of effort for the reward is just not fair. Why spend time learning Gief or Guile when you can just pick up O.Sagat and start pwning instantly.
…and I hate Claw too. :lovin:
I disagree, Boxer is almost as auto-pilot as O. Sagat is. The only thing is that against some characters he has to charge up super (which doesn’t take too long) before he can engage it
The corner rapeage Boxer can deliver is fairly auto pilot but against Guile, Chun, Gief, decent Shotos and Sim you have to think like a mofo. The most autopilot matchup Boxer has is against Claw.
As a Claw player, good Boxer players scare the living shit out of me. I still think Chun is very easy to use.
“Sagat managed to go to one of the most boring characters […]” - Sirlin
Word.
…but let’s keep the HD talk out of this thread. I only visit that thread when I want to add people to me ignore list. Double quarter circle motion for Guile’s super, DeeJay crouching fierce overhead, parries? 86, 86, 86 cocksuckers. Sheeeeeeeit.
Speaking of Sagat, does the AI have higher chances of making you dizzy (among the numerous other advantages it has)? I was playing as Ken against AI Sagat on the DC version with all default settings and he dizzied me on the first hit of the first round in 1 second with a j.HK… Never seen this before against AI or humans so it was a bit surprising.
I think I almost wet myself when I read this. That was awesome.
You’re right though. This is why I stayed away from that thread. Too much hypothetical and theory, not enough…Real.
A gentle greeting hohonos,
How come you’re getting so fresh lately? It is a shame that there are so few low tier character specialists in the United States, but the O.Sagat hate is unbecoming–I miss the well-adjusted nohoho. Keep an open mind about HD. Much like O.Sagat, it’s coming to tournaments whether you want it to or not, but unlike O.Sagat, it’s attempting to bring along more character variety.
Yeah, you’re right. I’ll let it go.
“well-adjusted” heh what the eff?
Yeah, you know. The one that carries around a blender in his back pocket and hops out the back of watermelon trucks.
I play this game since some years and the char I used the most are o.sagat and st sagat. O.sagat is not so easy to use, takes a little bit to be played properly but it’s mainly a missing matchup knowledge, after that he becomes a boring char. St sagat just puts the character in a more open and interesting way to play. And I find the super funny to use, similar to fei long one
I find Chun li a boring char to use too. But for some reasons I can’t find claw boring as well…
I forgot to say, even since o.sagat is boring (and I don’t use him anymore) I wouldn’t softban him because claw and chun are very cheap as well. Only akuma is a worthy ban, imho