Super Smash Bros. General - Patience and Spacing....or Whine and Moan

Sonichuman · February 21, 2014, 11:25am

And just like that…that list goes right out the window.

Saitsu · February 21, 2014, 11:25am

…I don’t got any decent lines for this one. Anyone else want to take this?

Zebster · February 21, 2014, 11:27am

Something from his part of the DK Rap (also for thread title)

Smashbro29 · February 21, 2014, 11:28am

Colonel-Gilgamesh:

Smashbro29:

Item hate

I’m not the biggest item guy myself, but I have been playing Smash all my life(as many of you may be) and to just write off an entire chunk of the game like that as uncompetitive and random is limiting it’s potential.

Look, are drops random? Yes. Do they wildly vary in power? Yes. But items are not as great an equalizer as you say and a skilled player beats an unskilled player regardless of items. I am a skilled player compared to my friends, and they beat me with items. However, more often than not, I beat them handily because they can’t use items the way I can. People write them off as gimmicky and turn them off, but if someone takes time to practice with each item, both attacking and defending, it’s the same as being skilled in other areas. Almost every item has measures and countermeasures to balance their power. Even items that appear to be equalizers aren’t THAT strong. Any throwing item can be caught. Any item you can just throw at the ground to use or just pick up to activate comes with it’s own footsie rules, but it rarely will it totally overhaul the entire match. I’m not gonna pretend the Timer and the Lightning or Final Smashes and Heart Containers aren’t game changes. They are, they dynamically shift the way one approaches a matchup. But they are temporary and a single hammer won’t close the gap enough from that 0-60%/death Falco that has been outplaying you every step of the way.

Items serve the same role as X-Factor in UMVC3. A comeback factor to work around, or if you’re adept at using it, a valuable tool in your arsenal. The only difference is the random nature of items(randomness we can adjust I might add), and in a way, that makes them fair. In Marvel, no one cares as much about Viewtiful Joe in XF3 as a Doctor Doom or Vergil because each can use X-Factor differently, even though it’s universal. Final Smashes may differ, but a Kirby throwing a pokeball is just as deadly as Little Mac or Link.

The items drop in random places. It’s random. It is that simple. I’m writing them off for competition because unlike all the comparisons people try to draw to X-Factor or super meter or the edge of the stage it is totally out of your hands. You know going in Doom has good XF3, you don’t know going in which items will drop where and what’s inside them it is completely random. Will the Pokeball have Suicune or will it have Goldeen? You just don’t know.

Could I beat my casual wiimote+nunchuck playing friends if items are on? Definitely.

Would it totally mess up matches played between me and my equals or near equals? Absolutely. Because as it stands those are down to the wire imagine what an assist trophy or a hammer would do to that?

Using some items does take skill, however even a well placed ray gun can totally turn the tide of battle and that’s not fair.

I love items but you just can’t take it seriously.

Bious · February 21, 2014, 11:28am

Diddy says welcome to SLIDE.

Sonichuman · February 21, 2014, 11:31am

I thought about using something from the DK rap to reference him but what It wouldn’t fit.

Sonichuman · February 21, 2014, 11:34am

Pic of the day. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze is out now in Europe and North America! …And to celebrate, Diddy Kong joins the battle!! We’ve increased Diddy Kong’s flexibility this time. This picture shows how far his punches stretch during his strong side attack.

https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzRiDnykRIim5OS

If someone can come up with something better than a Bad Boy reference, I’m all ears. I tried to do something with second banana but it wasn’t working out either lol.

AlphaCommando · February 21, 2014, 11:38am

Diddy Kong confirmed for Monkey (heh) D. Luffy.

GUM GUM BANANAS

Sonichuman · February 21, 2014, 11:39am

There seems to a problem with the pictures I posted…

Spoiler

I’M TOOOO SLOOOOOWWWWWWW!!!

Edit:
Please give him a taunt where he pulls out his guitar from DKC 2 and jams on it.

Bious · February 21, 2014, 11:40am

Jokes on you Sonic. I POSTED THEM ALLLLLLLLLL.

Saitsu · February 21, 2014, 11:42am

What happens when Diddy runs into the Villager?

Sonichuman · February 21, 2014, 11:46am

Diddy mysteriously vanishes and there’s a plant being grown that wasn’t there before.

FOBio · February 21, 2014, 11:52am

Diddy slips his way into the roster

_Insert_Name_Here · February 21, 2014, 11:54am

Lol all items/stages on or off debate.

Everything on is fun because it’s wacky and random.

Limited items and stages is also fun because it’s not wacky and random.

Too many people acting like they know how the game should be played. Shut the fuck up.

orochizoolander · February 21, 2014, 11:56am

Diddy learned 1 of the 50 yoga killing arts:

Also I find it both funny and sad that some of you think having fun and being competitive are mutually exclusive as if there can’t be a middle ground.

Bious · February 21, 2014, 12:01pm

Just do this:

D.K! Diddy Kong is here! (Surprise.)

UnSaxon51 · February 21, 2014, 12:05pm

DIDDY KONG. EVERYTHING IS AWESOME.

Sonic, how about “He’s back again, and about time, too!”

Smashbro29 · February 21, 2014, 12:15pm

Yeah fuck discussing things. What is this a forum? Christ.

po_pimpus · February 21, 2014, 12:21pm

Take that, take that, Bad Boy.

Combo_Knight · February 21, 2014, 2:00pm

uh…that’s incorrect.

Diddy doesn’t play a guitar.