How in the world, exploding nonsense or not, would anybody be for items while simultaneously having serious competition?
Maybe I missed something, but it seems like to me they are incredibly random and faster characters benefit more from them. Certainly there is some possible way to make few work, but since they still randomly appear I don’t think so.
This gives me a cool idea though. If characters could start out with 1-2 items that they would have once per match as an alternative mode. They could pull them out and people could figure out which would be overpowered or not for certain characters.
Then again, why not just keep them out for main play and add more to the actual game.
I agree completely about Dr. Mario. I’ve always thought that Mario should be able to fire double fireballs like in the games. If you double tap really quick two small fireballs with virtually no stun and low damage come out. regularly tap for Mario fireball, hold while it comes out for pill like fireball.
If they can get enoughmoves for Roy, I think he’s popular enough to stay. Gannondorf should have different stances, I like that idea. With the swords. It might make him to versitile you’d have to hurt him in other ways. I think YL should just go away kind of, altough I’m sure they could give him enough other things. They could basically just rip some things from him and give them to normal Link and be done with it.
Also, since they had to be on a Nintendo console, Ryu is possible, right? I know they would probably do a Megaman instead.
I’ll have to politely disagree. If you’re going to get rid of clones, then get rid of Doc, Pichu, and Roy. Doc is far too similar to Mario in terms of playstyle. Pichu and Roy are both so inferior compared to their real counterparts (Pikachu/Marth) that there’s literally no reason to play them.
All the other clones are significantly different enough in terms of how they play that removing them would make the game a lot less varied. Both Flaco and Ganon play completely different compared to their clone counterparts. . .they’re unique enough to stay in Brawl. Although I wouldn’t complain if some of the animations were changed.
YL should stay, I think. . .his camping/projectile spam is just so superior to Link’s, that it makes him sufficiently unique enough to stay in Brawl.
The whole “I hate clones” movement need to end. I mean Doc,Luigi and Mario are VERY different.But there are some pointless clones like ganon(no magic? no sword? huh?)
And once again because I know people have not read this entire thread - :badboy: - Sakurai said the clones will either be reworked or gone. He also said not every character will return. So it’s not so much hate on anyone’s part really, but when you asked who should be removed I go with who’s most likely on the chopping block, so really all of the clones either have an axe above their necks or are going to be changed drastically if the developers don’t feel they are vastly different(and what they consider different might not be what you or I consider different, that’s entirely subjective and gameplay is not the only factor). That’s not to say that other characters are not on the chopping block, but he never said anything to the effect of ‘characters that are not popular will be the ones to be cut’ or anything like that, when Sakurai mentioned cuts clones came up. Just dealing with the very little evidence at hand. Could be wrong because who knows, it is all still a little vague truth be told.
PS: I do hate clones though…
And I want Big Pig Ganon instead of Ganondorf for another reason entirely. Ganondorf to me screams Ocarina of Time(and I guess Twilight but I haven’t played that yet…) Big Pig Ganon screams Ganon in every single Zelda game, heck even Ganon on the American Zelda cartoon and his Captain N appearance lol! So I want him to represent the Ganon of all games and not just the one. So this one is just a perspective of someone who is a fan of many Zelda fans and not just Ocarina. Princess Zelda by default has to already represent Ocarina because of the Sheik thing, so Ganon doesn’t have to. Adult Link can already represent quite a few Links from Zelda games if you are not hung up on specific sword and sheild designs. I hope this makes sense…
Eh, I don’t think anyone can cut any character and make everyone happy, it’s not an easy job… hopefully Solid Snake and whoever else from first or a third party that gets in will make up for ____ character being dropped…
That’s silly. How do you cite Mario, Doc and Luigi to support your notion that “The whole ‘I hate clones movement needs to end’”, then call Ganon “pointless”?
Ganon is easily just as polarized with Falcon as the Doc/Mario swap (hell, even MORE) and Luigi is considered an original character with no clone.
I do agree that the clone detractors don’t have much of an argument when faced with the actual statistical merits of eahc character, however. No matter the similarity in movesets, each and every character in SSBM has a VERY different playstyle and general feel between each of them.
Luigi and Mario are different enough, but Doc Mario is basically Mario in lab coat with better moves. It is a wasted space, as needed as having an extra better feeling but slightly worst looking right shoe thrown in with your pair.
I actually don’t mind Gannondorf but Sano’s idea of a pig Ganon also sounds good. However, the most recent pig form of Ganon (excluding TP cause I haven’t played it) is the OoT version, however I wouldn’t mind playing as a pig version as long as it wasn’t a Bowser clone.
There’s no reason for him to look like a pig in Brawl when he looks as sick as he does in TP. I take it you guys haven’t seen Ganny’s pimp new cornrows.
Pointless update to a pointless post. SF2 Akiman in the same magazine - Gamaga magazine drew Princess Zelda this month!
Some others he did before. Franziska Von Karma of Phoenix Wright 2 -
Bridget of Guilty Gear -
KOS-MOS of Xenosaga and Namco X Capcom joined by Tielos -
Both SNK Athenas -
Yeah, that was pointless but anything to kill time I guess…
And this has nothing to do with anything (even more pointless?) but who the hell ever thought that Voltron would ever crossover with Gundam? And I thought the Solid Snake in Brawl thing was crazy…
His pig form is super awesome in TP, but since he’s gigantic and walks on all fours (to counterpoint Link’s wolf form), I see it being his super smash, not a full-on form.
