how was it arbitrary? to people with no hands?
I don’t see how execution was an artificial barrier for doing WD’s.
An artificial barrier is like added a “Wavedash meter”, you had to work for your wavedashes.
ouchu!? Would you rather us have kept it a secret and be sneaky about it? plus not everyone keeps up with games as much as most of us gamers
>.>…gamestop doesn’t like hearing about games being pushed back either…can you imagine the damage that GTA IV’s push back did?
Brawl is officially gonna be ass.
No l-cancel.
Harder to dash dance. GTFO!!!
Ike sucks.
Other bullshit.
Thing is there was no reason to take this shit out. The competitive comunity kept this series alive and with one fell swoop Sakurai and the rest of those fuckers destroy one of the most successful tournament games in existence.
Damn you, Sakurai. Damn you.
This game will die in a year if no new techs are discovered.
Ike Sucks!?..errrrr…didn’t someone earlier say that his reach was good because of the damn sword? I’m trying not laugh over her cause of some of you guys automatically thinking it’s gonna be ass because a few things from an old game are missing.
Sonichuman: You don’t understand.
For one thing I’m sort of a smash guru on smashboards in the Marth section. I’m also part of a crew of players that revitalized the smash scene in NJ. I had high hopes for Ike. Also the advacned techs kep this game alive. It’s why people still love this game. It’s why the people who watched it eveo went fucking nuts for it.
Now it’s gone.
Fuck you Sakurai.
maybe you’re right…maybe i don’t understand but for right now from my POV it sounds as if you’re throwing the game down on the ground and already starting to pull your pants down for the shit you’re about to take on it. And the game hasn’t even been pulled out of it’s plastic wrap yet. The game ain’t even done yet! And what makes you think Ike is horrible? He’s heavy…which means when he does forward smash he’s gonna power through that shit and smack someone. and there’s like what 4 and a half months for more things to be added into the game? Give the game at least till like January when we start seeing final builds.
DEVS don’t care abouy your tourney scene. That’s normal.
And uh, another thing, maybe we should try playing it and attempting first instead of “Wavedashing and l-canceling are out. Smash is dead.”?
Gah…fine, fine.
I still wanna play the game. Just not seriously though.
I dont want to get flamed for saying this but…it seems brawl is a real step backwards from Melee. I get the feeling the game is going to suck if it lacks any of the elements that made it competitive. Sak seems more intereted in items/stages and other type of gimmicks then the actual gameplay…I feel sad now.
Is it reeeeeally that hard to imagine smash being a competitive fighter now especially with the little tweaks they’ve done to the characters? If so then I’ll admit right now that i’ve been sadly kidding myself for the past few years.
The little tweaks have literally changed the gameplay…it seems more"casual" u know. The game might blow…im calling it now.
They took out alot of the core mechanics that helped the scene be competitive.
Well there might still be auto-cancelling.
But special move cancels are out and that sucks.
I mean Samus is virtually unplayable now. Hard to bomb jump and shit.
Wow.
Just.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.
Eh, there will always be SSB64 for that. I just fun playing as Ness knowing how broken he is with his bat. Man, those were the times: Me, my cuz as Samus, and he’d pull all the stops and I’d just bat everything out of the way. And that killer yo-yo move…
Now I know why 4chan calls you guys tourneyf…gets kicked in the nuts
Honestly, even during Melee days, not many people took Smash seriously as much as…say…Tekken. What’s to change?
I’m just glad Luigi wont be around to see the wavedash-less Brawl. Oh snap, DRAMAAAAAAAA!
sfired:lolz. You made me laugh. Thanks for cheering me up even if it was unintentional.
At least I’ll have a challenge in breaking this game.
well yeah, first quarter sales are gonna be great though, even thoug the holiday season is usually a companies biggest push. Also, i didnt know if what i said qualified as e-rant or e-sarcasm, so i took a guess 
With all the talk as of late with all the, Smash competitive scene is dead, dont worry so much, i mean, i know popular and intriguing elements were “removed” but smash is still going to be Smash, and that should be reason enough to play the game seriously.
We’ve seen Smash Bros 64, and melee (and there, we had another transition, with new elements being added and things being changed), and they both are still doing well competitive wise (online Smash64 is popular with some of my friends.).
edit - lol at the vids, dont mess with a Kong’s bananas. Also, the 1st player character select for that is awesome, with the freezeframe into char. select.
EL: how do you know that?
Anyway, Smash was always meant to be casual anyway. The fans turned melee into a competitive game, honestly.
That’s some pretty damn awsome cinematic/character selection right there.
I don’t really see why people are tripping like this. We knew from day one that this wasn’t going to be Melee 1.xx; if it were, then there would’ve just been a new revision like Guilty Gear and Street Fighter II before it. All of the assessments being made are true if characters played mostly the same as they do in Melee, and from someone who hasn’t had enough time to sit down and try to actually break the game, but only to test out basic things that anyone could do within five or so minutes.
I say just chill and wait until the game drops into our laps in order to pass judgment. Trying to do so based on what we have now just makes that person look like a dimwit.
Edit: I just got negged hard. Awesome.