I don’t see any Panasonic models that have low input lag, unless I’m looking at the wrong models?
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/tx-50ax802b-201405193778.htm 37ms
oh maybe i should have read the whole thread. just saw people recommending LCDs… which are going to be above 20ms lag unless it’s more of a monitor than a TV.
depending on what test is used the plasma i currently have, Panasonic 65" VT60, scores between 20-30ms. i’ve never tested my display myself, i personally can’t notice a diff between this and a Trinitron.
I don’t really remember when or where I read this, but I remember reading that since Plasmas don’t refresh top to bottom like an LCD, but instead all at once, comparing input lag ratings between LCDs and Plasmas should be taken with a grain of salt.
anyways, dont think you’ll have any trouble finding a <30" TV that has sub 10ms input lag. If you go above 50" though, I still think Plasma is the best way to go.
fyi that’s a panasonic 4k lcd
this is what i have right now, www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-txp65vt65b-201306273079.htm,
also have the GT50 (or maybe 60?) and ST50 at my moms house…
just need to switch to game mode and also make sure to disable any extra features/processing/etc. these sites do say they test in Game mode, but they don’t specify whether they disable extra features… a bunch of them are on by default in Game mode.
Yeah that’s why the test used the Bodnar and camera test and compared it with a CRT, and both results were over 30 ms.
Sony 65" 950B, 990A 850A series are all 17-18ms of lag, the 32" 42" 700b(706b/705b depending where you live) series are around 14-16ms lag.
Plasma can be all over the place just like LCD. Both suck for input lag. The difference is plasma mostly looks good while sucking on the input lag side of things. I personally don’t like Viera, I think they look bad and all the ones I’ve used (I returned 3 Vieras) had all sorts of image quality problems. Viera phosphors were poor and had phosphor lag, which kind of ghosts a bit, in a different way than LCD ghosting. VT60 is 37 ms, so it’s in the 3 frames time frame to render an image.
Plasma is more like CRT, it still draws top to bottom but blanks on/off in between each frame. LCD doesn’t, LCD simply updates the pixel. So you have no blanking between each frame on LCD and then pixel response lag creating ghosting. Usually LCD pixels are about 6 ms or so, that’s the time it takes the pixel to fully change color. Plasma phosphors I’ve read are around 3 ms and CRT phosphors are about 1.5 ms. I definitely noticed Panasonic’s phosphors were slow enough to see color splitting on moving images, something I have not seen on the 2014 Samsung plasmas. While Samsung’s plasmas don’t have as low blacks as Panasonics, other aspects to the images are much better. Sharper 3D, better phosphors, and Samsungs actually render the images proper. Viera fails a particular test. Aside from phosphors lagging on Viera sets, there is also a motion artifact that I’ve only seen on plasma. Static images look amazing, but as something moves across a static image, or even edges of a moving image, you can see snow artifacts. From a distance it isn’t so noticeable in the same way dithering isn’t, but as images move on plasma, there is that snow dithering thing going on. Both Panasonic and Samsung have this problem, all the way up to their final flag ship models.
The lowest plasma lag is the Panasonic U54? at 24 ms, placing it in 2 frames. The next step up is the S60. There is a Sony LCD model that has 16 ms of input lag, but Sony brand is really expensive plus it’s LCD.
I seriously can’t wait until something comes along and blows these current sets out of the water. I’m not even interested in 4k, I just want something that has all the benefits of CRT like no motion blurring, high color gradients, no snow artifacts on moving images, and no input lag. Guess that’s asking for too much 
Yep, I’m sure our future is 4k, 3D etc, no mention of input lag in specs still because consumers don’t even know what that is! Response time = input lag as far as I see people mention on other forums… Gaming mode means 0 input lag! >:)
We aren’t even close to ready for 4K. Even a beefy PC can barely handle it, and you definitely need SLI at minimum. Consoles can’t even do 1080p at 60 yet. I don’t think the 4K spec is complete, either.
i live in the us. everything is uk or in when it come to that sony model.
I’m also afraid about warranties and AC power vs the usa vs eur power supply? Amazon uk wont ship that tv here because of it.
What Sony model? This?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1059820-REG/sony_kdl_32w700b_32_1080p_multi_system.html
That’s an American site no? and you’re in America? :o
i think thats it. one site is saying they will give me a adapter for free. the link you posted says nothing about one. So do i need one or not? thats why im shook about make a decision. lol
Samsung UN32EH5000 i wish this one was the one. i cant find any info tho.
It should be similar to the UN32EH4003 720p which has 26ms of input lag.
Or its because of licensing and sales agreements. Manufacturers like love to restrict items to particular regions of the world.
Some of it boils down to national laws and customs. Amazon does agree as a condition to sell certain items that they can’t ship internationally.
Also some items have to be first approved by that country’s regulatory body, for TVs in the US that mean the FCC (CRT screens also have to pass FDA inspection, one of two consumer appliances to do so).
AC power supplies are not an issue specially with many AC/DC power supplies now can accept both US and European voltages.
The whole NTSC vs Pal issue is also rendered m00t by HD digital formats. Many newer European TVs are both 60hz and 50hz compliant.
I don’t think that matters. i saw the same tv on a American site but the price was too high so i skipped over it. i notice that one of the features was “can change language from Indian to english” What im starting to gather is that that model is made in the usa but not that size isn’t made in America but overseas. wont that matter? overseas electronics? isn’t there power supply or voltage they use different?
No, I own the TV and I’m in Canada and they sell it everywhere in stores here.
I can’t ship anything from Amazon.com to here, Americans can’t order from Amazon.ca, we both can’t from Amazon.uk etc doesn’t have to do with AC power or anything at all.
The mains voltage (voltage from your wall outlet) is different. But depending on the power supply this may or may not matter.
I own devices, switching power supplies that don’t care if it gets 100 volts (Japan) or 240 (Europe) (US is 110), its what the voltage that is out puts that actually matters.
And many of these devices have a switch to change voltage types or auto adjusts now.
And even if you don’t have the right US compatible power supply, there enough replacement and universal units not to make it an issue.
That is various laws, licensing and sales agreements going into effect. I can buy from UK sellers, as long as they listed on the US site, but I can’t buy from a US seller who has a UK listing.
I do know that eBay has none of those restrictions. On eBay shipping restrictions are done by the seller and not eBay.
so that is something that is easily fixed with an adapter? and buy it from the ca. site?
What do you need an adapter for if you’re buying a North American TV from Canada?
And a .ca site will most likely not ship to the USA, you posted an American site selling it and a UK site, what’s wrong with the American one?
i was shopping around for prices. and one site is telling me to buy an adapter because it inst traditional sold here.