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Caveat: Convergence on these is a huge pain in the ass
Yeah, convergence and geometry is always a pain in the ass on a CRT but everything else is top notch.
Plasma has the best of both worlds, perfect geometry, great gamma range and awesome color, but not as much range of gradients as CRT or LCD.
LCD has shit color, shit gamma, but perfect geometry and better color gradients than plasma.
Both LCD and plasma tend to suffer from input lag.
Hey, so I’m looking to pick up my first HDTV (I am pretty behind) in the next couple weeks, taking advantage of Super Bowl sales and all that. I’m hoping to find something with low input lag, VGA and component inputs (VGA for dreamcast, component because I own nothing that can output HDMI) around 32 inches or so. Does anyone have any suggestions? I’m not picky about plasma vs. LCD, honestly.
Plasmas do richer blacks than LCD
Plasma also have superior back lighting
LCDs are cheaper
I cross reference what ever sales your looking at with this
I always see cheaper plasma than LCD. I figured it was because the life of a plasma screen is much shorter.
That’s actually not true at all. If anything they should last just as long if not longer if they are well taken care of. LCD has backlights to worry about that plasma does not have.
They’re probably cheaper because the market for them is much smaller, it’s pretty niche and now a days there are affordable plasma solutions out there, but there aren’t a lot of small size plasma TV’s. There are only 2 manufacturers currently making plasma and that is Panasonic and Samsung. Both also make LCD, although Panasonic is not known for good LCD solutions. Everything else is LCD, and LCD is ridiculously cheap to make and the only reason they’re more expensive is just because. That’s literally it, just because.
I bought a 50" LG plasma a few years ago under the impression that they were better for gaming due to a lack of refresh rate. Didn’t know at the time about the difference between response time and input lag. Suffice to say, I suspect I would immediately see the difference if I get one of those ASUS monitors. The plasma still has fantastic picture and viewing angles and is fine for movies and most games, but I might go full-time on a new LCD monitor for fighting.
Cross-posting from the Deals thread, for anyone that may come here looking for a small screen.
I have 4 of these for my setup, and they work great. Built-in speakers is a nice bonus too, especially for mobile setups.
Anyone know how the lag is for the Acer S241HL? The closest matches I could find data for were the S211HL and the G246HL on displaylag.com. Those two have very good results (all of the five Acer displays on that site are 10 or 11 ms). Is it safe to assume the S241 is similar?
My question isn’t about anything lag related but about simply connecting the monitor to the 360, i couldn’t find a more suitable thread to ask this, also don’t think it was worth creating another thread for. I have a Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM and recently i wanted to try and connect my 360 to this monitor which caused me some trouble.
My monitor has VGA and DVI-D port and no audio out, my 360 only has an AV port, no HDMI(it is really old but it still works 
). A HDMI->DVI-D cable won’t work, VGA doesn’t transmit sound and if i get a AV->DVI-D cable how will i go about getting sound when i want to use my turtlebeach which uses a digital signal. The 360 cable that came with the 360 has an optical port in the dongle itself which i use for my Turtlebeach, however i can’t use this cable to connect to the monitor.
The answer might be easy but i can’t really think of a way to get it to work.
Maybe i just need to buy a cheap headphone which works from a USB port…
360 VGA cables come with audio outputs.
It’s never safe to assume anything but logically a manufacturer is going to reuse parts as much as possible because it saves on manufacturing costs. So chances are there are cross components and the lag will at least be similar. If other models in that series are averaging 10 ms then I would take a good guess based on that logic that the new one you are asking about is most likely going to as well.
I looked around in my city and unfortunately the 360 av vga cables have no optical output, atleast the newer version, i’m guessing because the slim edition have the optical in the back of the 360. I need this one yet i can only find this
I have no use for those RCA cables as i can’t use them on my monitor.
Might as well order online somewhere. Thanx anyway 
I finally ended up getting one of these the other week, and I’m really pleased with it. Unfortunately I have no credible way of testing the latency but can say I had an extremely comfortable transition coming from a Sony GDM-FW900 crt monitor plus the picture looks great and the motion is very smooth…but yeah still expensive.
What’s the deal with the highlighted enemy marketing bs?
http://www.squidoo.com/top-20-gaming-monitors-by-input-lag
Apparently here they say that the monitor has 4.6ms of input lag. I don’t know how credible this site is compared to displaylag.com, but it is something.
this is for non-US guys
If you’re having trouble finding lagless monitors/TVs you can use a script that I created that searches for every entry on displaylag.com in “my country domain”-ed sites.
It can be fine-tuned to search for a list of specific sites, also (ie: amazon.es, mynoncountrydomainsite.com…)
LMK if you don’t know how to use this and you’re very interested in it
My evo monitor died. I’m not sure what exactly are the differences between the 239H and 238H models? The 236H is out of stock are there any major differences between the 238h and 239h? Both run for about the same price.
Depending on the exact model the Asus 238 has the same 10ms input lag that the Evo monitor.
Display Lag .com has no data for the 239.
Newegg links here if you want to see there Specs
Asus VH238H - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236117
ASUS VS239H-P - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236288
The VH238H has only 2ms of Response Time while the VS239H-P has 5ms.
The VH238H has a lower pixle pitch
The VH238H also have lower power consumption
Thanks I’ll just get the 238H then.