Sub 1 frame HDTV/Monitor Input Lag Database

Are you shooting in 1280 x 720p / 60 fps? Also just a note that sanwa buttons will start to input at a half press.

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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/43951/nEvuh">nEvuh</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>Are you shooting in 1280 x 720p / 60 fps? Also just a note that sanwa buttons will start to input at a half press.
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Yes.  Either way, I’m doing the same counting method with the SDTV and they’re coming out at the same frame.  More deliberate and accurate tests were already done with the <span style=“color: rgb(34, 34, 34); background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250);”>oscilloscope from the guys at prad.de.  I was just more or less confirming the fact that the monitors are good.<span class=“Apple-tab-span” style=“white-space:pre”> </span></span>

Can someone clear up something for me? I’m sorta new at this and currently in the market for a gaming monitor. I was wondering if the Taito Type cabinets for SF4 and such have any ms of input lag? Or what sort of monitors do they use? I would like to get to the closest arcade experience as possible.

@<a href=“http://forums.shoryuken.com/profile/14509/FourWude”>FourWude</a> really needs to post in this thread.

That Eventhubs list instantly killed, and potentially discredited the entirety of this awesome thread… <div><br></div><div>Everything we’ve ever posted in this thread from our own research is now “off” compared to that eventhubs list. wtf.</div>

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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/6626/Ijiwaru">Ijiwaru</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>That Eventhubs list instantly killed, and potentially discredited the entirety of this awesome thread… <div><br></div><div>Everything we’ve ever posted in this thread from our own research is now “off” compared to that eventhubs list. wtf.</div></div>
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Wait, what?<br>

This thread is the “sub 1 frame input lag database” <div>1 frame which is 16ms if I remember correctly.</div><div>That eventhubs list has the LOWEST input lag measurements STARTING at 18 ms, which is already passed the “1 frame” threshold.</div>

I realize that, but one list doesn’t invalidate the information that’s been her for ages. If anything we just need to figure out why the data is different.<br><br>Is 18ms the low end limit of the Leo Bodnar device?<br>

I vouch for the Benq GW2750hm. I own it for 5 months and it is rock solid at 6ms very low input lag. You can find on sale for $260 at newegg 

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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/6626/Ijiwaru">Ijiwaru</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>This thread is the “sub 1 frame input lag database” <div>1 frame which is 16ms if I remember correctly.</div><div>That eventhubs list has the LOWEST input lag measurements STARTING at 18 ms, which is already passed the “1 frame” threshold.</div></div>
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It’s based on different testing method and a different standard. And FourWude says the bottom of LCD monitors actually lag more than the top and middle. 18ms is calculated with input lag and response time in mind.<br>http://www.displaylag.com/the-lag-tester-a-new-standard/<br>

Man this page is kind of confusing, so many posts. It is hard to notice input lag, planning on buying a monitor/HDTV soon. Probably gonna listen to the glory person. Any tips or good monitors suggestions with info to back it up, please send to my inbox, greatly appreciated. :)>-

Has anyone checked out the Japanese Toshiba Regza z line? Here is the claims from their site, sub 1 frame response in a 37" tv model:



I don’t know if that applies to the larger models and I have emailed toshiba but have not heard back yet.

The www.displaylag.com info confuses me, if the evo monitor clicks at 16ms (8 on old test) with his adapter then the samsung 32 inches lags 19ms but is really less? :S

The way he counts it is - from the time signal is sent to the tv, processed, sent to the pixels, pixels updated, light emited.
The way everyone else counts it - takes CRT (low lag), takes the TV. Runs numbers on screen, takes a photo. Looks at how far behind the LCD is from CRT. Or oscilloscopes it, which is similar.
The way everyone counted (before bonars tool was here) was ‘how far behind the CRTS the LCD is’. Which is not the same as the total input lag from the LCD v

ok now I get it thanx!!! Im about to buy a kit from kray so I think there is no other option than the samsung listed there.

Hmm, I have both LG 32LD450 and Dell U2410 and ran some tests tonight. I’ve always felt that my U2410 was far from being “fighting game” grade from what I’ve experienced so I was surprised to see it on this list.

FYI, I’m using the LG 32LD450 with game mode on as the base to test the U2410 as I don’t have any CRTs lying around. With the game mode off on the Dell, the time lagged by 17 milliseconds. Now, what I found interesting was that with game mode ON, the time would slow down at random intervals between ~6-40 milliseconds.

I’ll test it out some more later.

hey guys this is an official cry for help from a community member.

i’m moving in with my girlfriend and i need to find a 42 inch tv or monitor with the least possible amount of lag. I’m a huge bitch when it comes to lag and i currently play on a crt, so i want the best possible. I’ve looked everywhere, including many pages of this forum, but i can’t find anything that is currently sold in the US that sounds like it will be at least as good as the evo monitors. Please please help me out. I’m looking for a model number for a 42 inch tv with the lowest lag possible.

This is the definition of a first world problem, but it is still a problem. Please help me out!

Hi y’all, I got an interesting question for you guys. What would introduce more input lag, the Xbox 360 scaler or my display’s scaler? I have a 1080p monitor and I’ve been running the Xbox in its native state at 720p. Recently I’ve tested 1080p so the monitor doesn’t have to scale. As far as can tell, and this is all anecdotal, it seems/feels like the Xbox 360 scaler introduces less lag than the monitor’s scaler. In BF3 at 1080p my bullets seem to hit more than in 720p. Does anyone know for sure? Also, how much more lag is introduced to the monitor if I use its scaler? According to a post on the first page of this thread one monitor was only gaining tens of a millisecond, so I assume it wouldn’t be to much.

Hey SRK, I need to know if my tv is good for gaming:

It’s a Samsung 22 inch LCD model #LN22A450C1D, and it has a Game Mode if it helps.

sexiest 27inch IPS with 3.2ms input lag priced at under $300 and looks like the apple cinema display
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_s2740l.htm
lowest lag I have seen

or you can get the 24in version at bestbuy for $200