wow. “low-brightness-flickering”. a new star was born :).
i knew about ips glow, bleeding, color tints, grainy coating, pwm noise and some other stuff with ips panels, but this is new even to me…
Not sure if I get this right, but could be that increasing brightness does attenuate blurring?
Someone should make a test with brightness set at 50 
oh, misunderstanding: turning up brightness will NOT directly influence blur or ghosting because that results from how the individual pixels can build up luminance. that has nothing to do with the brightness of the backlight.
brightness just regulates the intensity of the backlight and thus influences BLACK tones (whereas contrast influences WHITE tones). if changing brightness influences your perception (!) of blur or ghosting, i think it would depend on the concrete type of ghosting or blur. so perhaps you will notice the dark ghosting trail that the dell ips monitors show less if you turn down brightness. but that is only speculation.
Are you sure? I read somewhere that in LED backlit panels, the resulting brightness is made up depending at the speed at which every pixel “blinks”. If the blinking speed is high, we have more brightness. If it’s lower, less brightness. So this could also have implications on the single pixel luminance build up.
but those panels are edge-led panels, so brightness only controls the intensity of the leds in the monitor’s frame. so how would that influence the pixel response time?
i am not completely sure, though.
How else would you explain the flickering at low brightness then? It’s clearly some sort of impulse which is slower at 0 brightness than 100.
again, i am not quite sure what the technical explanation is exactly. but, i doubt that pixel response time directly correlates to the brightness level you set your monitor at.
but you can test it yourself: just take the pixperpan tool and try the drive-test (F6) with different brightness values.
anybody tested this tv? the list shows tc32x1
but this one is tc32x7 and its older. any help would be appreciated!
Thanks for the answer guys but I see on the front page that both of those have 16ms of lag. Let me explain a little more what I am looking for I typically host large get togethers at my home and would like to buy a tv large enough to be my main tv in my media room. I want as large as I can get but I also want it to have no more than 9 ms of lag. It would be a plus if any of the tvs also was 3d capable and led. I would like to keep this all under 2000 but if not still list the model number of the tv that is over that. I believe buying a tv for a room should last around 3 - 4 years so may be willing to splurge if it meets all requirements.
I’m pretty limited in terms of where I can buy my stuff, can anyone recommend an affordable place to buy a gaming monitor online from a UK website? Not many of the models on this database seem to be stocked by Amazon UK.
Thanks in advance.
I’d say that for the most part, you can’t go wrong with an ASUS TN monitor in terms of input lag. It seems that unless they are almost TV-sized (27+ inches) or has something drastic done to them they will all be good for input lag.
But yeah the older input lag tests were done using clone mode, so not much to say there (I tested the VE228H initially using clone mode and got strange results, then retested it using a VGA splitter and got the results you see in the OP)
problem with many asus tn panels is color reproduction. already sent two of those back because i couldn’t calibrate the thing via software.
problem 2 is that some of asus tn panels show serious ghosting issues, i.e. the ve248h.
other than that, many asus tn panels which include the overdrive control function via osd are very good lag-wise.
Thanks guys!
Last annoying question, I see Amazon has the MS238H in stock, this is listed on the front page of this topic. Are there any known issues with this that I’m not finding? Thanks again, I really appreciate it.
Edit: Actually the viewing angle might be annoying! Leaning towards the VE228H or VH242H
I suppose.
hey guys ,
as u can see im new here ! i have a question , why in ur database there is no sign of Asus ML238H and ML248H ? according to this website : http://www.squidoo.com/lcd-monitors ML238H have an input lag of just 5.05 ms and according to another website : http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index/5018?cPage=5&all=False&sort=0&page=5&slug=asus-ml248h-thin-for-the-win ML248H have an input lag of 7.22 and yet none of this 2 are in ur database , why is that ? u know i plan to buy one of these models and i just wanna be sure about this amount of input lag mentioned on thoese websites , can anyone confirm ?
tanx alot ! and sorry if my english isnt so good .
I’m trying to get an HD TV Monitor what the best result so far that can do street fighter and umvc3 with no problem?
Just letting people know the PA246Q (which is the 1920x1200 version of the PA238Q) has the same lag input as the 1080p counter part (equivalent to the evo monitor). It also has 1:1 pixel mapping so you do not have to play in a stretched screen. There is also no noticeable ghosting in this monitor. Making it a viable IPS gaming choice.
I tested it side by side with my evo monitor using a HDMI splitter. However, I don’t think I still have the images anymore (I’ll check my camera later).
bambee: anandtech does not use an oscilloscope or smtt 2.0. and thus, its latency tests are nor reliable. by the way, even with good lag and ok responsiveness (1 frame of ghosting), the colors are really bad.
see http://www.digitalversus.com/lcd-monitor/asus-ms238h-p8243/test.html
Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it.
I’ve pretty much decided to opt for a VH242H, it’s not on the database here but it seems a few people use it with their setup.
guys plz !
i wanna buy a ML238H why no one give me an answer ? is ML238H really 5 ms in terms of input lag or i must’nt trust squidoo.com ? plz guys im so in hurry to get this monitor but im holding off just to see if one of u expert guys confirm this 5ms input lag ? 
askhan: the ml239 (newer model) has an input lag of <2 ms as confirmed by prad via oscilloscope. but the 1/2 (!) response time would be between 7 ms (TF=100, bad reverse ghosting and corona effects) to 15 ms (TF=0). you will get slight blur even with TF=60 and corona effects.