Nice! Did you hook it up to a PS3? hdmi to dvi cable?
I wonder if getting to used to the dell will mess up your game if you go to tourneys and play on an evo monitor. Not that I’m going to every major 
PS - i also still don’t get why tftcentral gave it 0.6ms and prad gave it 9.3? Did Prad also analyze the original ASUS?
Yup, PS3, DVI to HDMI with this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TH7T2U/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details only like $7. I run my audio strait from the PS3 strait to my Turtle Beach headset so the lack of HDMI on the 2312 was not a deciding factor.
And sorry for the misleading username, I am not an actual MLG pro. Always wanted to, but a full time job with State Farm and wife doesn’t leave too much time to pursue that avenue. While not a pro I can still handle the sticks, 2.59 k/d with a 4.24 win/loss. But I would imagine it wouldn’t throw off my aim too much going back to the EVO. In terms of the variance of input lag times, it’s not surprising just because there is no set way to measure it. Everyone has their own process, but my hand/eye coordination tells me it’s faster than the Asus. I also could not find where Prad or TFTCentral analyzed the VH236H.
thanks man. But you can feel a diff compared to the ASUS? How’s the image quality?
Does the HDMI to DVI adapter introduce any lag?
Image quality is hands down better, and I don’t think it’s just me wanting to feel a difference after spending $250 on a monitor, I honestly can tell its smoother. And the adapter doesn’t add any lag since it isn’t converting an of the signal, it’s still digital to digital.
gotcha thanks.
My confusion now is that the new oscilloscope tests (from prad.de) rate the dell u2312hm at 9.3MS or so for input lag, while the original method at tft central was 0.6ms. I don’t believe the ASUS VH236H has been tested with an oscilloscope, so not sure if the 8.3MS is accurate?
Totally confused :-/
Well I don’t know what test is correct. After playing for a couple more days on the DELL, even switching out the EVO with the Dell every other game, I still would take the U2312 any day of the week. Is it a night and day difference? Prolly not. Is it worth the extra $100? Prolly not. But if you can afford it, get it.
Does anybody have word on a large sized TV with good input lag? I’m looking to buy a TV around 55 inches but I can’t really seem to find much on realistic input lag for any model. Price isn’t much of a concern so if anybody has ideas on a good new model TV or can point me to a good site I’d appreciate it.
The Panasonic ST30 series plasma TVs have minimal input lag, as displayed on the front page. The higher grade model: GT30, also has the same minimal input lag, but a nicer bezel/quality control on colors etc. Not 100% sure on the flagship VT30 plasmas, as the higher quality picture may increase the input lag in the end. All of those TVs go from 42-65 inch models.
but be aware of image retention and even burn-in problems with plasma tvs, especially if you will use your tv mostly for gaming.
From what I’ve read, image retention isn’t as serious as it was a few years back. Each Panasonic plasma has built in anti-image retention features like “pixel orbiter” and a “Scrolling Bar” that sweeps the screen for up to 15 mins at a time with a white bar that you can stop any time. Pixel orbiter slightly shifts the pixels around on the screen to reduce the possibility of image retention.
Another safety feature is a mode that turns the TV off after 3hrs of no interaction with the remote. You can turn it off if you don’t want it on, but it’s a nice safety feature.
When buying a brand new plasma screen, the most important rule is that the first 100 hrs are its most prone to burn in. They say you shouldn’t have still images for more than an hour at a time at first, then 2hrs etc. Once you reach about 100hrs, plasmas are pretty much ready to take on anything. If watching DVDs/BluRays with black bars on the top/bottom of the screen within the first 100hrs, watch them in zoomed, or stretched picture mode to “full screen” the images. Or you can just go out of your way and use the scroll bar for a couple minutes.
The 100hrs go by quicker than you think. Watching movies with no black bars on the top and bottom, or some movies have just a small bar that you wouldn’t mind playing in “zoom” to remove them. And once you reach the latter half, you can already increase the time still images are on the screen.
Also, when you think about it, even when playing a game like SF4, with the still life bars/super bars/ultra etc. The images change after every round, and at the end of every match, every loading screen. So there aren’t really any “still” images around that much. Unless you’re in training mode for 4hrs straight.
Another example would be CoD MW3. Sure the HUD is a still image during a match, but matches don’t last more than 15 minutes each. Then you hit the final scoreboard of the match, the lobby, etc.
That’s my experience with my Panasonic P50GT30, 50 inch plasma TV I got from Sears at $1199.99 plus tax. A friend of mines helped me out with his employee discount to get 10% off the already marked down price, so I couldn’t help but get the higher end model, over the ST30. But the cheaper but still lag free ST30 series was my first choice. In the end Plasmas have their advantages and disadvantages.
Plasmas offer:
*More even lighting of the entire screen (LCDs often have uniformity issues across the screen, where some parts are lit up brighter or darker than other parts).
*Better picture quality overall (Blacks are deep as they can get, whites are bright as ever, color accuracy is dependent on the TV model)
*Lower input lag (Usually, depending on the models and manufacturers. Panasonic, Samsung are of the better brands. Research before you buy)
Cons:
*Use more electricity than an LCD panel, So plasmas also give off more heat. (Difference between the 2 technologies would be like $5-10 a month)
*Heavier (My 50 inch plasma weighs about 65lbs. An LCD this size would be significantly lighter. About 40lbs)
*More fragile overall. Everything from image retention stuff, to handling the TV when bringing it home. (First 100hrs are its most fragile. Use the safety features listed above to help cope with the image retention. When moving the TV from the store to your home, you shouldn’t lay the TV flat on the floor/car. It should be standing up as the box indicates.)
For me, the better image quality and minimal input lag made it a no brainer when purchasing the TV. The cons were bareable for anyone who knows how to take care of their electronics.
Apparently this is a good website for some more recent monitor reviews. I found a review of the Samsung 27" LED 120hz S27A950D. It appears to be a decent choice if not the best if lowest possible input lag is your goal. http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/gadgetry-electronics-discussion/8220-samsung-s27a950d-review.html
Have a year and 3 month old ASUS VH236h for sale. Originally bought in December 2010, very well taken care, never had any problems, only reason for selling it is because I purchased the Dell u2312hm and am loving it. Do not have the original box, and only comes with the power cord and Belkin HDMI cord. Trying to get ~100 U.S. Dollars out of it and will except PayPal. If interested just email me at mgdunaway@gmail.com.
You need to have been a member here for over 6 months before you can sell stuff, and, there’s a specific forum for selling.
Had no idea. Didn’t mean to offend the elders
Hey guys. Ive been waiting for someone to comment on the DELL U231HM, think I’ll buy it this weekend. Just to confirm, its the DELL UltraSharp U2312HM?
Thanks to NoobTurnedPro for convincing me
Yes, it is the Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM. I am assuming your using this monitor for gaming… any games inparticular? Like I said earlier, it’s on the more expensive side of the spectrum but I think it’s worth it. Be sure to post on here once you have a chance to test it out.
they count the response time of the screen into the equation of input lag. dell u2312hm has 8 ms g2g.
Tho i think this is an invalid theory because the screen isnt suppose to show all the colors before making the color that is coming from the graphic card.
Hey! Yeah it would probably be Tekken6/TT2 and SFxT. Well actually just fighting games I will definitely post once I get the chance to test it out!
Thanks!
Right, but then isn’t the old ASUS VH236H test not 100% accurate since it didn’t count the displays response time?