Thanks, you are correct, my mistake. Did more research and my plasma has ~35ms input delay. Too much or?
Remember if you’re getting a converter to get an amplified converter. Basically a converter that requires an outside power source, otherwise it’s just using the power from the analog signal to convert to digital - degrading the quality of the signal and/or adding any more delay than there already is.
DVI-D and DVI-I are digital so there’s no worry about converting them to HDMI through a small converter.
This review.
Although the reviewer says the anti-glare used makes it look really grainy and is unsatisfied with the console results visually.
I can’t help you make that decision; it’s a case of your own preference =/
You know at this point I think it’s more cost effective to get a gaming monitor for practicing lag impacted games and use a regular HDTV for general gaming and movie watching. TV manufacturers don’t seem to be moving toward less lag and you sacrifice a lot of features in order to get a low lag TV, and it still isn’t nearly as low lag as some of these monitors can go. This thought is dependent on the fact that cables are crazy cheap (online) so you can hook up HDMI and power cables on both displays and, as long as you’re confident in your capacity to carry a PS3/360 from room to room, you can just move the system from one setup to the other.
Edit: Course this could be because most of my life takes place within a space where every display I own is within arms reach of the other…
Hi guys… thx for the great thread!
Is it safe to assume that the 50 inches of the Panasonic ST30 model would do as good as its smaller version the Panasonic TX-P42ST30B - 16ms input lag 42" 1080p (U.S model TC-P42ST30)
or can size matters even whthin the same Line when it comes to input lag?..
I am looking for a new TV for my livingroom and 42 inches would be too small… ><
I read that review before purchasing the monitor. Like he said, he received a bad monitor. Backlight bleed is non existent on my unit. As for complaining about a grainy image, that’s because he has gotten used to glossy screens which tend to make colors pop more.
Yes, size does matter sometimes. Going by previous reviews there would be a ms difference between the sizes. However, I noticed someone at AVS had done some testing on the 50inch ST model and found there to be 15-32ms of input lag. Also, keep in mind Panasonic showed off their new Plasma line at CES, so it might be worth just waiting for that to be released (ST range).
http://i51.tinypic.com/14cus5f.jpg > Test image
Link to Panasonic Press Release on new lineup.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/panasonics-2012-smart-viera-plasma-234500767.html
Hi I am new to Shoryuken.com and have recently become a fan of the fighting game series.
I am purchasing a new monitor soon by Acer with 2ms response time which I know has nothing to do with input lag. It is 27 inches, 3D capable, and 1080p. I saw a video on input lag but wasn’t sure if this Acer HN274HL model has input lag problems. If anybody can test this monitor please tell me whether or not it has input lag.
If anybody has information on good monitors for 2012 with little to no input lag please reply or send me a email: ericyang2653@yahoo.com
I don’t know anything about the testing methods. But according to this site http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-ue32d5000_TV_review_motion-and-contrast-handling_Page-3 , the samsung has av 40 ms of input lag ! So which is true?
Maybe trusted reviews did not test in game mode which turns off the extra processing of the TV?
hadtvtest.co.uk writes in their test:
“As we’ve come to expect from the less processing-heavy HDTVs, the Samsung UE32D5000 performed wonderfully in terms of responsiveness, meaning that it should delight gamers. We measured the lag as averaging at around 16ms, which is not even a single frame’s delay. This was achieved without the use of “Game Mode”, in fact, as has been the case on previous entry-level Samsung displays, the “Game Mode” on the D5000 is just a marketing feature – selecting it doesn’t adjust the video processing beyond enforcing some non-standard white balance settings, and it doesn’t bring about any improvement in responsiveness. We simply used our calibrated “Movie” mode in this case.”
I’m very interested in that tv, but I wouldn’t by it with 40ms of lag
just wanted to contribute to this list.
http://www.eizo.com/global/products/foris/fs2332/index.html
Eizo Foris FS2332-BK is a monitor built for gaming, I wish they’d release it here in the states for a reasonable price.
Indeed this monitor is very good, one of the best atm… input lag only 1.7ms
Your news shocked me. Still, I trust hdtvtest.co.uk more. The only way is to test it personally using SMTTv2…
…and I was going to buy the TV and test it, but the shops here still don’t have the TV yet. Hope to give you more news soon!
It should be noted that Eizo’s Nanao monitors came standard in a lot of Japanese candy cabinets.
Some of them are regarded as the best of the Arcade CRT monitors.
I did a quick google check and the price was around $500-600.
Really expensive for a 23 inch, but considering the brand, not surprising.
If I didn’t recently buy a Sony 32inch Wega Trinitron, I would’ve saved up for that.
I got my dell u2312hm today and im happy to tell you guys that its under one frame input lag ALL THE TIME.
i tested it out with ibukis cl.st.mk xx lk tsumuji link st jab (1frame link)
and i had to delay the input more than when im playing on the samsung 2233rz which has 15 ms input lag on average. (which means its LESS input lag on the dell monitor.)
Maybe not the best scientific test but i can feel its faster than the samsung so it was a good buy!
You dont have to delay the inputs. The time between the inputs stays exactly the same !!! No matter which input lag you have or not any at all. You just cant react to whiffed normals etc with lag.
I time the st.lp with visuals. since the gap is so large between lk tsumuji and st.lp.
Then you are right ofc .
Anyway I dont know if I would go for that link very often, cause its unplinkable, dont know ibuki very good, perhaps there are safer options.