You missed something on Raven’s frame data. On Raven’s far st.hk, in the official patch notes it says that the “hurtbox next to the hitbox is invincible to air attacks.” Or is that not actually the case?
Nope, you are throw invincible for 3 frames, so you get grabbed at the 4th frame.
I’ll change the notes in Raven’s far st.HK to reflect the change note. Basically his kicking leg crushes airborne attacks, only during active frames.
So the guide was wrong? 3 for HS and BS and 3 for wake-up correct?
I honestly don’t know if the guide said that, but yes, you’re invincible for 3 frames.
There’s even a value in const.lua:
ok, thanks for clearing that up. Yeah the guide said…you cannot be thrown for 4f AFTER you leave BS.
Apparently Ken’s TC data is wrong. Because Apparently I can punish his CADC dash with 4 frame moves despite initially being -2 after a CADC. It seems his TC doesn’t change on block and only on hit. Can you test that Street? Also can you test poison’s H attacks and see if she CADC dash into cl.lp. It can supposedly naturally combo off a H attack without a CH or EX CADC.
I will take a look into it tmrw. TY for pointing them out.
Also street do you mind testing Juri’s counter (all versions) to see when they are cancelable? I would appreciate that. Also if you didn’t know the CADC data is complete.
Yea, I heard that it was done. Props for doing it all the way; it must have been difficult and time-consuming.
As for Juri’s counters, I’ll do it when I double check frame data for Ken and Poison.
Thanks. It wasn’t super difficult. More or less time consuming. Lots of number crunching.
One more thing Street. If Juri counters says Ryu’s cr.mk but he does a CADC dash. Would you simply just add up his dash and CADC + 1 frame totalling 24 frames total? Basically viable for a punish? Is it possible to CADC on the first frame whilst countering on the first frame? Since you said that there is 1 frame of hitstop and Juri moves 1f before Ryu.
Yes, that seems to be the correct calculation.
I have changed Ken’s recovery frames on Target Combo. It is +3 on hit and -4 on block after CADC.
Poison is +1 after cl.st.HP CADC on hit. It makes sense since it has 25f hitstun and Poison’s CADC is 8+16=24f.
I’ve made 4 new rows for Juri’s counter activation. Start-up is when you can cancel into another move, so if you’re canceling a 4f move from LP counter it would take 20+4=24f to start-up.
Didn’t you also say that you can cancel the fwd counter on the 19th frame as well? So adding 1f more wit the CADC dash can grant me 24 frames instead of 23 since I’m adding one frame. Correct?
Thank you once again for your efforts.
Canceling forward counter is at the 20th frame, but it is basically 19th frame in the opponent’s point of view since Juri moves 1f earlier.
If I said it in a different way I was 1f off back then.
Ah ok. So I can technically still punish things that have a recovery of 23 with a 4f move?
Yes.
Excellent. Thank you oh so very much. I could hug you. I’m also guessing for the up counter she is airborne on the 7th frame I take it?
She is airborne from the 8th frame, so she technically cannot get her jumping normal out on her 1st airborne frame; she can do it from the 2nd airborne.
Gotcha. Her back counter is quite fast…now if only it didn’t travel so far backwards I could punish some many things with it. But I’ll take the distance as is.
Hey street apparently there is I-frames on Lars Dp non ex version’s. Can you confirm that? I have tested it before and Lars beat out meaties with his DP. But I just need some kind of solid confirmation. Could you also check Veg’a Scarlet Terror and see when all version’s are airborne? Also to if you could find out if Abel’s ex TT has projectile I-frames as well.
Pretty please?