I agree that 39 characters is far too many
Your reasoning however is completely retarded and I’m ashamed to share your opinion
Here’s the thing. If you agree that having less characters would be beneficial, it would make sense to not include characters which contribute little value or are the least used & have least potential.
sounds more like a rant to remove characters you have troubles against. you must either be part of that 99% you gad mentioned or a scrub akuma main.
levery character in ssf4 is unique and fyi this isn’t a tier game like marvel its all about the matchups. look at infiltration. he counter picks like crazy. characters may have similar moves to each other but they are all different in frame data and eeffectiveness.
lold so hard at sakura playing like ryu. ur a moron.
Yeah, I think the OP had the right idea, just went on a complete brain-fart reasoning. 39 characters is definately too many for a new game, but this is the typical growth of a SF game. As the game matures, more characters are added. We’ve seen it in SF2 and SF3 prior to SF4.
The question(topic) for this thread should be what would be a good starting roster number for SF5, (25?) And if 25 is reasonable, WHAT 25 characters should be chosen.
If SF5 is a success (lol) it’ll get updates and become SSF5 with more chars.
Yes I think you’ve kinda got my gist. In having too many characters, it makes choosing the ones which add most variety and excitement to future games more of an ambiguous choice. The actual number of characters isn’t too important; rather how different they are. It’s OK to have 100 characters if they’re all very different. But having 10 clones of Ryu with slight cosmetic changes is not acceptable, for example.
I think you’ve totally misread or misunderstood the thread
Okay, lets pretend you’re not trolling for a second and discuss this seriously.
I think you can argue against some of the less developed characters or stylistic clones to be excluded, but pretty much all of the more heavily developed characters should be under consideration for any future games.
You can’t really compare heroes like Sakura or Ken to Ryu and then say it’s okay to have Akuma, they all have very distinct playstyles and unique tools to differentiate them.
A more apt comparison can probably be made for the SF3 or Alpha characters in comparison to the core timeline variants (being SF2->SF4).
For instance, Charlie, Guile and Remy all play very very similarly, sharing many of the same normals, playstyle, and execution, it could stand to reason that in any given version, one of these characters could be varied enough to be inclusive of the other two and still remain true to the core character.
But on the flip side, although Hugo replaced Zangief as the core-grappler in SF3, he played quite a bit differently than Gief did although they do share some similarities in execution and theme (360 characters, big wrestlers, clap vs green hand, body splash jump ins, lariat moves, etc), but once we got to SFxT we can see the two characters playing very differently, with Hugo relying more on bigger combos and more combo ability once he’s in on someone, but having less of Zangief’s approach game or mix ups. Can I justify seeing both of them in a future game release? It’s possible because I think if you gave either of them the other’s strengths and playstyle without taking away their own strengths you would create a nightmare of a character in terms of power.
Other characters like Urien were built and balanced pretty much exclusively for the Parry system and wouldn’t really work in games without Parry and would have to be reimagined to be viable and consistent with a different game system.
This is such a great reply. Thanks for actually making a point and not making fun of me. I agree with what you’re saying
Akuma is closer to Ryu in this game than Ken is.
You have balls for posting this, respect. Most people on here like to feel apart of something, so they’ll gangbang the first person to say something like this. Yeah blanka, hakan, and el fuerte need to go >.<
Yeah I will admit I do feel there are a few characters in SF4 that just don’t fit with what SF is about; Fuerte, Viper, Seth…now obviously these characters are a part of this game and shouldn’t be outright deleted or anything but I wouldn’t lose sleep if they didn’t return in future installments.
Just to clarify, I don’t feel these characters are OP or even “braindead”, I just don’t think their playstyles mesh well with the rest of the game and the philosophy behind it.
Exactly. I think the whole purpose for Capcom to hold the character poll was to work out which characters people actually care about and which ones future games can leave out. Seth did indeed rank very low, amongst the lowest infact. I personally like the character but totally understand why he is unpopular.
i dedicate this so to you (symbolizing as 80’s gay behaviour).
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/8HE9OQ4FnkQ/mqdefault.jpg
as being an ungrateful towards capcom’s hardwork.
P.S: now i admit i’m trolling…f
I don’t understand what you’re trying to imply. I was trolling with the suggestion to remove half the cast, only used the title to gain attention. And with character-specific reasoning I was kinda trolling. But my main point I still stand by.
what?
Does that make it more clear to you, why people think you are a troll?
I also think 40 is sort of too many characters. But if you want to make a point do it a least a bit seriously if you want to be taken seriously. If you make one valid point and back it up with trolling and bullshit you are more discrediting your inicial point than defending it.
Although I find some other opinions really strange, like someone said that tome characters make the game not as serious. I understand that this person is not claiming that the game is serious. But from SFII, how many characters are serious at all? Ryu, Sagat and Dictator? The whole game is a huge parody… El Fuerte is just a more modern stereotype, but not much different than the rest.
Pelase don’t tell me E.Honda, Chun-Li, Guile, Zangief, boxer, claw, Sim, Blanka are serious…
Thanks for the advice, I’ll be sure to not mix trolling with a serious suggestion next time. When you talk about “serious characters”, it doesn’t really matter. Street Fighter is not meant to be realistic, it’s meant to be ostentatious with its characters. What matters is how they play rather than how they look.
even if you change the title…it still represent the same meaning as the previous ones.
Ok, lets just say you’re not ranting like a retarded 80s gay.
Well here’s my sincere opinion…
on last post you did pinpoint every single character that you hate and wanted them to be removed.
Sakura, Elfuerte, THawk, Hakan, Abel, Seth, Viper, Dee Jay etc.
except for Sakura and Dee Jay, i found out that all character above are mix-up random, coin tossing and involve lots of guessing games (yeah, i love it and never care if you hate them so much). tell me, how do you want to promote variety in this game (just like in this new topic title) if all these character outta of the rosters? replacing sakura with poison doesn’t change much since poison is still a shoto (character with qcf projectile and dp anti air)
and another your scrubby reason is about tier. its been 25 years i play street fighter, never missed any series and i never give a damn about tier. say are you some sort of tier whore? I’m tired of people who ranting too much about tier.
I never mentioned Abel, Seth, Viper or Hakan. Please get your facts straight next time. And I don’t HATE any of the characters, I just thought some weren’t innovative enough