I would still wager that Chun is ranked higher then 2I Yang due to her having very high priority normals. Her super is pretty much as brain dead as you can get while yang has to worry about connecting chains to do damage. I suppose she would be above him since shes a easier character to use, although how much damage does Yang inflict with this SA1.
As much as Chun-Li can rely on C.MK alone to fucking destroy you.
2I Yang can do the same. LK -> MK is nice because connecting a short is A LOT easier than a forward.
2I yang also has that crouching MP to mix it up. Even tho Chun has her super and her godly normals. Her special moves really suck, while Chuns options arent much in quantity she backs that up with quality.
Where as 2nd impact Yang has both the quantity and quality in his options. Not to mention Yang puts that ass load of EX to use. EX slashes and a raishin to fall back on is dangerous. I mean yeah Chun-Li just needs a good low forward, B.FP, S.MP, C.FP to take chunks of your life bar.
Taking special moves into hand, Yang can easily combo into his specials and get meter. Even though Chun-Li can sit around and whiff normals all day and get meter. Yang can RTSD effectively WITH NO METER and get his meter and become more deadly with meter.
Im still tempted to say Chun is better though, I developed quite a fear of her C.MK so im probably a bit biased. Although I do think Yang is literally just a step down from where she is however. I could easily see a good yang rushdown game completly destroying chun, we even see a bit of it in 3s yang since 3s Yang is basically a lesser Yun. I do have a question though, Chun is a anti-Shoto in a lot of ways, does she have anything over 2I sean since i know Chun has a good match up vs ken. Oh crap, now im actually getting all excited over the idea of a Hyper SF3 game lol.
The difference between Yun & Yang is, Yun with meter is Yun in control. Without meter, Yun is the lesser Yang.
Although 2I Yun doesnt apply to this (2I Yun is the lesser yang no matter what). I can’t answer your question about 2I Sean vs. Chun. For questions like that I would have to actually play that match up. Which isnt possible for me at this moment 
Your right, Denjin is not unbeatable, however it’s the mere fact of human error, it’s the mere fact of waking up , or blocking pokes that someone can cancel into Denjin and launch outward and having to guess that can and will always be a factor into Denjin. In 3S, it’s not as big of a factor because Ryu cannot abuse it as much, not only that, but Denjin in 3S really limits his Ex-Options, due it being a much bigger bar, but more importantly, only one bar.
In 2I, it’s a much smaller bar and 2-stocks, making it far more abuseable, not to mention, Ryu overall as a character is not limited in versatility as his 3S counterpart. This makes Ryu a far better character, so I still disagree on him being considered overrated.
As for 2I Yang, the more I look at it, the more I just simply see that he can edge out Chunli. For me, having versatility, better hit-confirms, way better Ex-Options, an extremely powerful Super Art that can be easily linkable, and spammable Divekicks, I just cannot see how Chunli can be overall better then 2I Yang is the more I look at it.
For 2I Sean vs 3S Chunli, well I never personally believed Chunli owned all the shotos in 3S for free, or was a complete anit-shoto. I’m not saying that she didn’t fight well up against Gouki, or didn’t give Ryu one of his worst matchups in 3S, however she only fought well up against Ken.
He was the one shoto that from what I could see and tell that can actually fight Chunli well, and not be completely lopsided, like her matchup with Ryu in 3S.
I believe 2I Sean would do quite well up against 3S Chunli, mainly because, Sean like many 2I characters have easy linkable hit-confirms, he can deal alot of damage even without resorting to using meter. He has great Ex-Options which can directly link right into SAIII for big damage. Things like S.fkxxSAIII is quite retarded.
However I think 2I Sean would most likely do quite well up against 3S Chunli, simply because he packs the damage without meter, he can easily link his SA’S like 2I/3S Ken can.
I can see Chunli doing well only if she can zone the snot out of 2I Sean, the only Shoto that I can agree with who would have the biggest advantage would be 2I Gouki, simply because Chunli has nothing that can stop or remotely punish Gouki’s Dive Kick. However I will leave this in the thoughts of 2I Sean players, since I’m relatively new with 2I Sean.
But imo, I believe 2I Sean would give Chunli trouble.
Lol…now I myself am starting to wish there was a HSF3, lolz.
S.hk xxx SA3 still exists in 3rd strike 
Target combo xxx SA3 was retarded, I kno it exists. But I cant do that shit.
With the exception of Yang, Ryu, Akuma, Ibuki and Sean every other character was actually boasted in 3s oddly enough. So then with that said here is what I personally thnk the tier would be like if HSF3 did exist:
Top Tier:
NG Ibuki
2I Akuma
3s Yun
2i Sean
Upper Tier:
Chun-Li
2I Yang
3s Ken
2I Ryu
Middle Tier:
Makoto
3s Dudley
3s Urien
3s Oro
Low Tier:
3s Elena
3s Necro
3s Alex
Remy
Bottom Tier:
Q
3s Hugo
Twelve
Where’s Makoto?
Also I see your list working, only I think Chun and 2I Yang should be in their own tier. If 2I Ryu is really a tiny bit worse than Ken, and Ken isn’t in the same tier anymore as Chun in 3s, then there’s no reason to think he should be considered in the same tier as Chun. So I say put 3s Ken and 2I Ryu in Mid tier with Dudley.
Also, isn’t NG Necro better than 3s Necro?
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i think someone forgot NG oro.
his tengu stone lasts like 15 seconds and has the jugglability from his ex tengu in 3s
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I dont know if NG necro and Oro are better then there 3s counterparts, ill need to play the game some more to see for myself.
NG Oro is better than 3S Oro, NG Oro was one of the best characters within the game of NG, if I remember correctly, he was around Upper Tier in NG.
I also remember NG Necro being better as well, however I don’t remember that too much, however NG Oro>>>>3S Oro by far. Also, didn’t NG Oro have an infinite??? I remember that as well.
After more thinking, here’s my tier listing again, just changed slightly…
God Tier
NG. Ibuki
Top Tier
2I Ibuki
2I Gouki
Upper Tier
3S Yun
2I Sean
2I Yang
3S Chunli
High Tier
2I Ryu
3S Ken
3S Makoto
After that it’ll become quite hectic, however I would probably rank 2I Hugo one of the lowest, yes, he’s got better options, however his hit-box just severely hinders him, making him one of the worst from any of the 3 games, you could rank him higher than 3S Sean though
My problem is that, I don’t know enough about NG characters, but I do remember alot of NG characters where really powerful, since I’ve only started to mess around with NG recently. Many of them had some sort of ininI do remember that NG Oro was very, very beastly, Tengu Stones where ridiculous, and if my notion of him having the infinity is correct (which I’m pretty sure) then he’s easily High-Tier or even better.
NG-Ryu although not 2I versatile, his Shin-Shoryuken that I remember was a juggle-reset, did phenomenal stun damage, and he could dish out 100% damage combos with it, basically an infinite if you will. That to me sounds pretty beastly, although 2I Ryu would be ranked higher still.
NG Yun/Yang where also very powerful if I remember right as well…I also remember some sort of Genei-Jin infinite…as to how useful that is, I don’t remember.
NG Sean does ridiculous damage and stun, it’s sickening how c.mk into Tornado Kick fills up half of the opponents stun bar damage…which is just nuts!
Overall, I believe NG characters hit for hit did more damage and stun overall then their 2I and 3S counterparts. Again, we really need a breakdown of NG characters before we can actually get a definitive tier listing.
However, I don’t believe any of the Top Tier characters within 3S to be ranked in the same category as NG/2I Ibuki or 2I Gouki. These three characters are way too powerful and can combo into huge damage and stun without even having to resort to using SuperArts. NG/2I Ibuki being able to combo into their SAIII, which in after, they can combo again, and again, go back into SAIII to me is simply ridiculous on any lvl. That’s basically a guaranteed full stun + huge damage potential, however NG Ibuki wins out over 2I Ibuki simply because she can easily infinite her way to victory.
2I Gouki in my eyes has almost no equal, aside from maybe NG/2I Ibuki countering him+ his stamina feels much better then 3S Gouki’s stamina as well. Overall, I don’t see any other characters within NG, 2I, or 3S who are capable of being placed in the same category as these three characters.
They simply do not require full meter’s to be effective, they have easily abusable combos that go into big damage, they can easily fill up the stun meter, however they all have very good super arts that just makes them even more better as characters.
After that, it becomes more reasonable, as I could say 3S Yun is arguably the 4th best character, however I strongly believe that 2I Sean can take that spot as well, because he doesn’t need a full meter to dish out big damage+stun unlike Yun who needs Genei-Jin to be the big threat that he really is.
After more consideration, I’ve pushed 2I Yang over 3S Chunli, simply because, 2I Yang can combo and do good damage on a far more versatile lvl then 3S Chunli can. He also has Dive kick, and with both SA1 and SA2 being so easily linkable, however I would choose SA1 due to it having 2 bars, but most importantly, it’s damage is off the wall.
With much more versatile and easy combo setups, Ex-Mantis rapes, Dive kick spamming, 2I Yang can easily get opponents to corners, dash in and go into mad setups. SA1 is 2-stock and does great damage. 2I Yang is vastly superior to his 3S counterpart. I don’t see any reason as to why he isn’t an overall better character than 3S Chunli
My reason for placing 2I Ryu above 3S Ken, is because 3S Ken overall, isn’t that much better then his 2I countepart which is basically the same (2I Ken has better confirms into his SA’s), aside from 3S Ken having Kara-Shoryu and a better cross up mk. So with that statement I don’t see how those can make him vastly better that he should be placed above 2I Ryu.
However again, I would like someone who knows way more than I do about these three games, and setup their own tier listing, especially with some NG characters in it. With some info as to why they are placed where they are.
The reason I don’t have NG characters ranked besides NG Ibuki is because I don’t know enough about them, because I wouldn’t be surprised if a few of them ranked in High-Tier or better.
The NG Yun/Yang Genei Jin infinite was:
HK QCF+K xxx repeat QCF+P until time runs out. I forgot which version tho.
ng yun/yang was had the sweep of doom and their sa2 was instant and did like 50% damage.
3s chun/yun is just as broken as 2i ibuki/akuma.
so what if ibuki s.lp beats like half the cast for free? chuns hp button beats half the cast for free. and she mix it up with c.mk into super/(kara)throw.
everyone knows yun sucks without gj, but gj is just too good. there has never been another super where you can just activate and bulldoze thru your opponents defense into a half life combo.
I don’t know if it would be correct to consider NG Ibuki or 2I Akuma that powerful, as a matter of fact I would even argue that 3s Chun could even be a possible counter character for 2I akuma. Besides NG and 2I didn’t recieve enough play for the tiers to be fully realized, 3s has been around for years with heavy tourny rotation abd even then Chun and Yun dominant easily. If 3s had only been around for a year or 2 then dropped, people would have left thinking Yun and Chun where Gods.
Well I jus finished playing NG/2I and it does seem like there are other characters besides Ryu,Yang.Sean,Ibuki and Akuma that are better in the the first two games. Oro might be missing his double jump, Chicken COmbos and tengu juggles but man, this guy is a freak in NG. I don’t know how he would rank on the tier list but he is certainly higher then his 3s counterpart. I dont really play Necro so someone is going to have to fill me in on what makes him better in NG then 3s, as far as I can tell he has 2 stocks for SA1 so that might have something to do with it. 2I Alex looks to be better then in 3s, his SA2 bar is short and he can connect a super after a LP flash chop. I think he might inflict better stun and health bar damage as well, overall he just feels more soild. Aside from these dudes it seems like the rest of the cast got better in 3s.
3S Chunli would not be a counter to 2I Gouki. She has almost no answers to Divekicks from Yun/Yang since she doesn’t even have a proper anti-air. So how can she possibly handle a Divekick that’s super safe and even unpunishable on parry? 3S Chunli is definetly not 2I Ibuki/Gouki good, let alone NG Ibuki good. I wouldn’t even place her above 2I Yang, whom is far better then her because he has the same damage priority, if not even better damage output overall, with far better combo baggage to back him up for versatility.
Although the possibility of 2I Ibuki and 2I Gouki of being too overpowered due to the game not playing enough is true. The fact of the matter remains that 2I Ibuki and 2I Gouki where far more stronger characters then the 3S top tier listing by far. Any of you who question their strength, then please, name a character that can even remotely counter them?
Last I remember, the only way 2I Gouki gets countered is if 2I Ibuki is chosen to counter him, since she’s the only character who can beat him on a consistent lvl. Someone like Makoto fought very well against Gouki in 3S, however in there, Gouki is vastly inferior to his 2I counterpart.
The more I play 2I, the more I do not consider Sean even as a Top Tier character with Ibuki and Gouki anymore, due to them being that much more dangerous then he is. Sean is still #3, but he imo is #3 as an Upper-Tier character.
On the notion of 3S Yun, yeah, he’s very strong and good, but he’s nowhere near as ridiculous as the three I place above him. I mean, NG Ibuki just needs to land an infinity and that’s pretty much game, and to add more salt to the wound, her infinity isn’t very hard to do either, yet she can do everything 2I Ibuki can do but from what I can tell, with slightly better damage+stun damage output (from what I can tell and gather, most of the NG characters can do just slightly better damage+stun damage output then their 2I counterparts). NG/2I Ibuki and Gouki don’t even need Meter to be a threat, which is what really pushes them away from 3S Yun as an overall better character. Because Yun without Genei-Jin, his regulars aren’t even remotely as good as 3S Yang’s and much less 2I Yang’s.
Sure, Genei-Jin gives Yun a crazy rushdown game, however Ibuki and Gouki, both have crazy ridiculous rushdown game, without needing to activate SuperArt, which is even more ridiculous.
Genei-Jin is awesome and can lead to ridiculous combo damage without a doubt, but compare that to Ibuki, who can combo into SAIII, then right after, chain into another combo set, and rechain back into SAIII for more rape affect. That sounds a hell of a alot more badass then even Genei-Jin. While 2I Gouki sports arguably the best offensive rushdown tool in the game for SFIII, which can lead to crazy mixups, combo damage without him ever even using SAIII. Another worthy mention also is that, they contended with much stronger characters in 2ndImpact, which is another big thing.
I mean…just look at 2I Ken, he’s almost just as strong as 3S Ken except from a few differences in that he can’t cross up with jumping mk as well, and he can’t Kara-Shoryu…and he’s ranked what, at the lower end of Upper-Tier. Yet the dude is Top-Tier in 3S, and can handle someone like 3S Yun quite well.
That to me, is every indication of how much stronger many of the 2I characters where, compared to what the 3S characters are within their respective game and what they had to contend with.
So yes, I still stand by my tierlisting.
Does any1 have high lv match vids of 2I? Fuck this theory fight he said she said this game is broke. I don’t care to hear what happened at B1 or EVO 99 I gotta see it to believe it.
I remember when Hyper SF2 came out every1 was like ***“omg CE Bison/Guile!!!” ***and every slept on(forgot?)about the bullshit that ST Chun and Sim have. Didn’t ST Sim win the last Hyper SF2?
Yeah you are right, we gotta see some vids or combo videos showing NG/2I Ibuki and Akuma in action. I don’t think those two characters are as bad as everyone is making them out to be, the game was not played enough for anyone to know for certain, not to mention the cast iis overall more powerful then in 3s so who knows. The game could possibly be more balanced then we are making it out to be.