so if i wanted to just record right now without commentary. and later stream for 360. what would i need? hauppauge and hdfury2? do you know the big difference between hap and black magic?
The hdfury2 would be to remove the HDCP from the PS3 if you were using that , so you would not need that.
Just Hap or Aver card/USB devices is sufficient. You can either split the xbox signal and put one straight to the monitor/tv and one to the card, or just use the preview function of whatever card you’re using and play through your desktop, I do this with AverMediaCenter but I’m guessing it may add at least 1f of input lag so I have a splitter ordered.
If you want to stream directly from your card using FMLE you’ll need the 360 HD component cables instead, FMLE doesn’t recognize the HDMI input of cards afaik, though don’t quote me on that.
I recommend getting capture hardware that has HDMI inputs if you’re streaming 360 and if it’s within your budget. HDMI is just so much more convenient imo; a lot less clutter and no converters required on monitor setups (which usually lack component inputs). Just wish the damn PS3 could stream over HDMI too.
I have nothing but good things to say about the Matrox MXO2 so far, though it is quite a bit pricier than the Happ.
Nah, I was using FMLE before I switched over to xSplit and both programs were accepting the 360’s HDMI signal fine.
thanks guys , yea i just want a external device, to hook up to my 360 and a laptop , i am going to hook it up via hdmi. i wasnt really sure what else i needed i want to be able to reduce the lag as much as possible and i was assuming the hdfury2 would help reduce lag .
Must just be something specific to the Aver card, I can only get things like FMLE and VirtualDub to recognize the component inputs of it, but I have yet to get the chance to play with other cards.
As far as I understand it, HDFury in itself does not actively do anything to reduce lag, it’s just that many monitors/TVs do not have post-processing on their VGA input channel, so converting the HDMI signal to VGA via HDFury may have less lag relative to plugging the HDMI directly into the monitor/TV.
You must manually switch the incoming signal in the live view to HDMI in the Avermedia software before another program picks it up.
Yeah, that’s the default I use, even then my options in FMLE just show up as ‘AverMedia BDA Analog Capture’ and ‘AverMedia BDA Analog Capture Secondary’ with the secondary being the YPbPr input. Not that it matters a whole ton as I just use VHScrCap to stream the AverMedia window itself, but if I could figure out why it’s not showing up at the least it might help me with getting it to work in VirtualDub so I can do uncompressed raw capture with HuffYUV at some point.
Edit: Nvm! I actually did figure out the issue here, it looks like I had the H.264 profile set differently on the card than on FMLE.
Okay, I guess this brings me to my issue in VirtualDub, not sure if anyone has experience with it much, but when I try to use it instead of Aver MediaCenter I get massive spikes of lag, the FPS goes from the 55-60 it should be at down to 5-15 pretty often. This happens during the actual preview function, before I even start capturing, but carries over to the captures itself, so I’m pretty sure it’s not a HDD issue. My machine should be more than capable of running this well, and I never get dropped frames using Aver MediaCenter so I’m not really sure where the slowdown is coming from. Any suggestions?
May I ask where you got the mx02 ? And how much? I am not liking my avermedia card and would prefer an external solution.
Ninja edit: never mind google says 500. Looks like the BMI card for me.
xSplit is kind of aggravating me when it comes to audio levels. It’s picking up devices that are muted in Windows volume control (even when they’re not added as sources in the current scene), seemingly ignoring volume levels set in the OS, and it seems that I have to adjust the volume levels for each source individually in every scene whenever I want to make changes. Is there anything I can do to simplify this process? I’d like to be able to mute and adjust the volume on all of my inputs through software reasonably painlessly.
EDIT: I think I got this straightened out. Not particularly seamless though.
I picked it up used on Amazon for about half that.
I thought I’d share my current issues. So yesterday I began stream testing on my brand new computer, and it was quite successful. Today I move things around a bit and notice a couple strange issues. One, my video card fan and case fans continued to spin after shutdown, even after I unplugged the PSU.
After some thinking I unplugged my surge protector and everything shuts down like normal. I found that my Blackmagic Intensity Pro was continuing to draw power from the powered HDMI splitter. Maybe this is common knowledge, but I had no clue. After unplugging the HDMI cable, I smelled burning. Thought it was just the Intensity Pro card, but perhaps the motherboard as well. After turning it on, Windows no longer detected the Intensity Pro card and there was noticeable video and sound stutter, and a stutter when I move my mouse.
Anyways, I thought I share with you guys. I’m about to take my computer apart and return the motherboard to Amazon. I’ve only had this computer for about 3 days and I feel like chucking the whole thing out the window.
Edit: Well, as far as computer troubleshooting goes, I can only guess my motherboard is now having issues. Going to try swapping graphics cards just in case.
With HDMI the program can detect the input resolution because it’s passed digitally. With Component you have to manually click through to the crossbar settings and set your input resolution manually.
Use a lossless capture codec if you’re recording in VirtualDub, like Lagarith, HuffYUV or MSU where the M stands for Moscow.
Sounds like your motherboard took one for the team. The nice thing about modern motherboards is they do that, in the old days you would have lost everything.
I’d imagine your power supply might be dead too, as this sounds VERY similar to my last motherboard death which was caused by a bad power supply.
That was all using HuffYUV. The huge framerate loss happens before I even start recording, in the preview, but also happens in the recording. I’d think maybe a different codec would help but I was having the same issue before I even got HuffYUV installed.
Thanks for the head’s up on the splitter, I just bought a powered splitter myself so I’ll have to keep an eye on that. Can you tell me what make/model of splitter you were using?
Thankfully can I still return both. I’ll probably put my computer back on the operating table tomorrow. Still unbelievable frustrated since I just purchased these parts. Also feeling a lot broker than usual. Could ignore money easier when I was playing Deus Ex 3 and Space Marine.
Right now I’m still using the computer and eyeballing the resource monitor.
I have two Monoprice splitters. The 1 in 2 out and the 1 in 4 out. At this point, my memory is fuzzy and can’t remember which was causing the issue. I was testing with both today.
The Monoprice 1 in 2 out is really common for streamers(I think). So, might have been the my PC build that was the problem. I will say one thing, I only noticed the burning smell when I pulled the HDMI cable from the capture card(So don’t do that). I first powered everything off with the switch on the power supply and then proceeded to troubleshoot.
Hey guys today I was doing some testing and I was getting some echoes, I am using Hauppauge and Xplit. Does anybody have an idea what is going on? I didn’t have this problem the first time I tried it.
Mute the audio playback on Xsplit?
Muting xsplit mutes outgoing audio. Echoes might be due to audio coming in from line in while windows is listening to the device, mute the microphone input on xsplit.
How is audio connected to your computer?
Okay yeah, I have the same 1x2, it just arrived in the mail yesterday but I’m a dope and forgot to order an extra cable. I’ll keep an eye on it when I get to use it and post back if I see a similar issue.