Yep. I completely forgot that. And you would you believe I’m a Network Engineer? You would think that I would remember that.
You can actually do 360p H.264 at about 1500kbps if you’re looking to cheat. Works well enough with high motion, I’ve been doing it with Otomedius Excellent. I suck at Street Fighter IV so I haven’t even bothered streaming that though. YMMV
I notice teamspooky generally streams at 1500kbps and I suspect using h.264 but I can’t get my stream to look as good at the same bandwidth settings. Do you have any idea if they’re using some sort of filter?
No Idea, I’m using FME pretty much stock, Obviously such a high bandwidth requirement is for 60fps. So if you took in 30FPS (hint: Interlaced video) you could probably do with about 800kbps.
So yesterday I had a chance to test my new laptop and I am thrilled!!!
Everything ran so smooth, no slowdowns or crashes, I was using my desktop with an i3 processor and now I’m using the i7QM and is like day and night. Also first time I tried Xsplit and I gotta say I love it, its very straight forward easy to use, and it works great event thou it’s a beta, I will be buying this day one when the full version comes out. I streamed directly from Xsplit without using FME and it worked great too, is there a reason why I should use FME to stream instead of using Xsplit?
The only problem I encounter was that neither FME or Xplit were able to show the Hauppauge image, they were able to detect it but on Xsplit I would get a blackscreen and on FME I would get an error message when I selected the Hauppauge. What I ended up doing is using ArcSoft Total Media Extreme to which was able to display the image and then capturing that screen with Xsplit. Is this normal? or am I doing something wrong?
Also thank you guys for your suggestions and help.
Xsplit atm is highly unstable and has conflicts with many other programs and hardware, FME on the other hand is quite reliable and compatible with most anything.
The Hauppauge does not output to a virtual camera so you are forced to capture the image from software. This makes it a pain in the ass to stream for tournaments using the capture software. Its generally meant for recording.
I also highly advise against streaming in 60fps its a waste of bandwidth and processing you could be using to have better and smoother image quality.
In looking for more recording software I came across AmaRecTV . Can anyone who has the HDPVR1212 test to see if they can get it to work with it because if it does then AmaRecTV can output to a virtual camera to be use with fme, xsplit, wirecast, etc. I was able to get the dazzle to correctly work with its audio but thats no big whoop.
Also it has the ability to mix audio sources in with the video.
You can also use the virtual audio mixer (up to 4 sources) by itself like Virtual Audio Cable with the amamix.exe program that comes in the amarectv210b_en folder.
EDIT: Here is a guide that may help with the setup
Thanks for all the info guys.
My setup will be:
I guess i should be able to stream and record quite nicely from i`ve read.
Just wanted to step back in here and thank everyone for the advice. It’s all been very helpful and I’m moving forward with a new laptop in the near future with specs that are in-line with what’s been recommended. Just gotta shop around a little before I settle on one.
Probably going to settle on the MXO2 Mini as well unless I can find something else that does HDMI+component through an expresscard interface.
If you’re going portable, make sure you do USB 3.0
I believe that is all that does expresscard. All the ones I know of are USB.
So guys, sorry about bothering again. Has anybody here tested the setup i`ve mentioned?
Would like to know how it handles everything.
I’ve used that setup except with a core2duo Macbook. IMHO if you are streaming, the HD PVR sucks ass, seriously. HD PVR is suitable for RAW recording only. Not worth it if you want to do any production.
Why do you think it sucks so hard man? Ive been seeing some YouTube videos with guys explaining how to stream with it and it seems fine. And I also believe many streams ive watched they were using it, so Im not sure why I couldnt use it.
Any insights?
It sucks because it doesn’t have directshow output. The only way you can get the output into any type of real time production software is to screen cap it. That means you have to be running Hauppauge’s buggy media center software in preview mode, which window cannot be arbitrarily resized and must be “always on top”. Then you have to screen capture the output, and with your remaining screen real estate, manage the production of your show. If you’re on a laptop, that probably means you have something like a 1200x800 screen, a huge chunk of which is going to be taken up by the Hauppauge media software.
Yeah I see what you mean, that’s exactly what I have to do but I don’t see it as a big deal given the price of the HD PVR.
That`s my main problem.
Im in Brazil, things are really expensive for us here. Besides, I only have my Macbook Pro. If i can do it in a somewhat decent manner. The thing is, there arent many people streaming in Brazil right now and nobody with a portable setup. I was planning on offering tournament organizers here my setup if they covered my travel expenses. I could go to tournaments without spending a lot of money, streaming the tournament for everybody and playing it altogether. I just hope i can do it with that setup. And, besides that, I believe many places will have external monitors so i can travel with my adapters in order to use double monitors (through hdmi or vga) and using the external monitor as the screen capture for the streaming.
I hope the mbp can handle it.
When I went to a direct capture device, I actually saved about $100. The HD PVR was $220 incl. tax at the time and I switched to the AverTV HD DVR for $100 shipped to my door and now I can do both HDMI and component capture. I don’t need my station to be mobile now, but when the time comes for that, everything will be faster and cheaper. I already expect that a $500 laptop now would pretty much be able to handle CPU encoding in HD with either a USB 3.0 card or an expresscard capture device.
There is another disadvantage to using the HD PVR, which is it only has component input. All the tournaments I know of are run on ASUS VH236H evo monitor, which only has HDMI input. If you run on a TV with component inputs, there is likely going to be some input lag. Are you really going to spend another $200+ on an HD Fury 2 just so you can use the HD PVR? Or will you somehow convince the tournament organizer and players to compromise on lag so you can stream? All these issues go away with a proper capture device.
That monitor isn`t even available here. Almost all of our tournaments are run in TVs with component/hdmi in.
Why would component input lag?
Btw, thanks for helping me clarify those issues.
Component doesn’t lag in and of itself, but if the tournament is run on a display that has component input, that DISPLAY is likely to lag.
You could, for example, run the tournament on a CRT with component. In theory that shouldn’t lag.